daft Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, av1 said: He’ll never be found then. But you can bet your ass three of the Seals will write a book about the experience and argue about details of the mission in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 hours ago, duke313 said: But it is worth considering, because that's exactly who it is reported we are after along with Emery. So, either NSWE are underestimating the ability of these managers, or the money tap hasn't actually been turned off as previouly reported. It was also (erroneously) reported that Gerrard was sacked last night. Lots of things are reported, doesn't make them accurate or worthy of serious consideration. Not trying to silence anyone, just trying to bring some of the mad optimism back down to earth. It's highly unlikely we end up with Poch, based on all measurable criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Top 50 coaches in the world, according to FourFourTwo 1 Pep Guardiola2 Carlo Ancelotti 3 Jurgen Klopp4 Antonio Conte5 Stefano Pioli 6 Mikel Arteta 7 Thomas Tuchel 8 Graham Potter 9 Julian Nagelsmann 10 Diego Simeone 11 Hans-Dieter Flick 12 Christophe Galtier 13 Eddie Howe 14 Xavi 15 Erik Ten Hag 16 Lionel Scaloni 17 Christian Streich18 Roberto Mancini 19 Urs Fischer 20 Unai Emery 21. Oliver Glasner 22. Mauricio Pochettino23. Gian Piero Gasperini 24. Arne Slot 25. David Moyes 26. Abel Ferreira27. Luciano Spalletti 28. Julen Lopetegui 29. Kasper Hjulmand 30. Ange Postecoglou 31. Marcelo Gallardo 32. Tite 33. Patrick Vieira 34. Luis Enrique35. José Mourinho36. Ivan Juric 37. Thomas Frank 38. Regis Le Bris 39. Marco Silva40. Simone Inzaghi 41. Roberto De Zerbi 42. Igor Tudor 43. Lucien Favre 44. Giovanni van Bronckhorst 45. Paulo Fonseca46. Vincenzo Italiano 47. Jesse Marsch 48. Marco Rose49. Maurizio Sarri 50. Gareth Southgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: Top 50 coaches in the world, according to FourFourTwo 1 Pep Guardiola2 Carlo Ancelotti 3 Jurgen Klopp4 Antonio Conte5 Stefano Pioli 6 Mikel Arteta 7 Thomas Tuchel 8 Graham Potter 9 Julian Nagelsmann 10 Diego Simeone 11 Hans-Dieter Flick 12 Christophe Galtier 13 Eddie Howe 14 Xavi 15 Erik Ten Hag 16 Lionel Scaloni 17 Christian Streich18 Roberto Mancini 19 Urs Fischer 20 Unai Emery 21. Oliver Glasner 22. Mauricio Pochettino23. Gian Piero Gasperini 24. Arne Slot 25. David Moyes 26. Abel Ferreira27. Luciano Spalletti 28. Julen Lopetegui 29. Kasper Hjulmand 30. Ange Postecoglou 31. Marcelo Gallardo 32. Tite 33. Patrick Vieira 34. Luis Enrique35. José Mourinho36. Ivan Juric 37. Thomas Frank 38. Regis Le Bris 39. Marco Silva40. Simone Inzaghi 41. Roberto De Zerbi 42. Igor Tudor 43. Lucien Favre 44. Giovanni van Bronckhorst 45. Paulo Fonseca46. Vincenzo Italiano 47. Jesse Marsch 48. Marco Rose49. Maurizio Sarri 50. Gareth Southgate Did they have a criteria for the ranking? or just judgement calls? edit:: Eddie Howe 13th….what? Edited October 18, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, nick76 said: Did they have a criteria for the ranking? or just judgement calls? I thought it was bang on with Southgate at 50th to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: Top 50 coaches in the world, according to FourFourTwo 1 Pep Guardiola2 Carlo Ancelotti 3 Jurgen Klopp4 Antonio Conte5 Stefano Pioli 6 Mikel Arteta 7 Thomas Tuchel 8 Graham Potter 9 Julian Nagelsmann 10 Diego Simeone 11 Hans-Dieter Flick 12 Christophe Galtier 13 Eddie Howe 14 Xavi 15 Erik Ten Hag 16 Lionel Scaloni 17 Christian Streich18 Roberto Mancini 19 Urs Fischer 20 Unai Emery 21. Oliver Glasner 22. Mauricio Pochettino23. Gian Piero Gasperini 24. Arne Slot 25. David Moyes 26. Abel Ferreira27. Luciano Spalletti 28. Julen Lopetegui 29. Kasper Hjulmand 30. Ange Postecoglou 31. Marcelo Gallardo 32. Tite 33. Patrick Vieira 34. Luis Enrique35. José Mourinho36. Ivan Juric 37. Thomas Frank 38. Regis Le Bris 39. Marco Silva40. Simone Inzaghi 41. Roberto De Zerbi 42. Igor Tudor 43. Lucien Favre 44. Giovanni van Bronckhorst 45. Paulo Fonseca46. Vincenzo Italiano 47. Jesse Marsch 48. Marco Rose49. Maurizio Sarri 50. Gareth Southgate Gerrard was top 20 last years list I have said before on here Juric would be an interesting choice, his Verona team finished top half with very little budget and plays similar style to Klopp or tries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted October 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, thabucks said: Top 50 coaches in the world, according to FourFourTwo 1 Pep Guardiola2 Carlo Ancelotti 3 Jurgen Klopp4 Antonio Conte5 Stefano Pioli 6 Mikel Arteta 7 Thomas Tuchel 8 Graham Potter 9 Julian Nagelsmann 10 Diego Simeone 11 Hans-Dieter Flick 12 Christophe Galtier 13 Eddie Howe 14 Xavi 15 Erik Ten Hag 16 Lionel Scaloni 17 Christian Streich18 Roberto Mancini 19 Urs Fischer 20 Unai Emery 21. Oliver Glasner 22. Mauricio Pochettino23. Gian Piero Gasperini 24. Arne Slot 25. David Moyes 26. Abel Ferreira27. Luciano Spalletti 28. Julen Lopetegui 29. Kasper Hjulmand 30. Ange Postecoglou 31. Marcelo Gallardo 32. Tite 33. Patrick Vieira 34. Luis Enrique35. José Mourinho36. Ivan Juric 37. Thomas Frank 38. Regis Le Bris 39. Marco Silva40. Simone Inzaghi 41. Roberto De Zerbi 42. Igor Tudor 43. Lucien Favre 44. Giovanni van Bronckhorst 45. Paulo Fonseca46. Vincenzo Italiano 47. Jesse Marsch 48. Marco Rose49. Maurizio Sarri 50. Gareth Southgate I was reading this with interest until I see number 50 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: I thought it was bang on with Southgate at 50th to be honest. But Eddie Howe 13th? Is it unreasonable with my Villa rose tinted glasses on to expect our next manager to be one of the top 50 managers on any list like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Howe 13th in that list above the likes of Mancini, Emery, Spalletti and others is objectively hilarious. Edited October 18, 2022 by The_Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, nick76 said: But Eddie Howe 13th? the guy behind him is even more bizarre. Xavi has been dreadful at Barcelona and has a shitter win rate than Koeman who they hated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, daft said: But you can bet your ass three of the Seals will write a book about the experience and argue about details of the mission in public. The USA infrantry survival book only contains one sentence on one page. ‘Call the British’ The post and view probably makes it obvious that I was in the British Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, nick76 said: Did they have a criteria for the ranking? or just judgement calls? edit:: Eddie Howe 13th….what? https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-best-managers-in-the-world-football Quote But there are those who have excelled over the past year or so – and we thought we’d rank them. Our list is determined by a few things: ability, of course, as well as how much their team has achieved in these past 12 months – with resources taken into account. Everything considered… these are the most employable men of 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, nick76 said: But Eddie Howe 13th? Is it unreasonable with my Villa rose tinted glasses on to expect our next manager to be one of the top 50 managers on any list like this? What the ****? I just cancelled my FourFourTwo sub. For real. And I am ashamed to ever have given them my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, thabucks said: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-best-managers-in-the-world-football Kinda makes sense for Eddie Howe on those criteria. Southgate on the other hand… Edited October 18, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, a m ole said: Kinda makes sense for Eddie Howe on those criteria. Southgate on the other hand… I really don't see how those criteria warrants him a 13th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, daft said: I really don't see how those criteria warrants him a 13th place Literally just going from being a Steve Bruce team to not a Steve Bruce team. The change he’s made is among the most significant of managers over that period. Obviously I know the mitigating circumstances that an inanimate carbon rod would have improved them after Bruce. It says club achievement is the parameter though and based on that I can see why even if I disagree with the conclusion made. Edited October 18, 2022 by a m ole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, daft said: I really don't see how those criteria warrants him a 13th place He has lost 6 league games in 2022, twice to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs and Everton the only weak team they lost too Its as solid as most managers this year plus its a UK biased magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has lost 6 league games in 2022, twice to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs and Everton the only weak team they lost too Its as solid as most managers this year plus its a UK biased magazine But 13th in the world? I'm sorry, but wtf. That's just insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, a m ole said: Literally just going from being a Steve Bruce team to not a Steve Bruce team. The change he’s made is among the most significant of managers over that period. Obviously I know the mitigating circumstances that an inanimate carbon rod would have improved them after Bruce. It says club achievement is the parameter though and based on that I can see why even if I disagree with the conclusion made. I mean I am not saying he is a poor manager by any stretch, but that is a bit laughable and over the top. But hey ho. It's a random list someone did, and obviously subjective. I just laugh at it even though I really did cancel my sub. Edited October 18, 2022 by daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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