Genie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I read earlier that 50% of the worlds semi-conductors come from Taiwan so that’ll be the next thing to go down the shitter if there’s a conflict. (In terms of the worldwide economy, obviously the loss of life is more serious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) We’re getting closer and closer to all our war. Quote China has begun live fire military drills - its biggest-ever in the region - in the waters around Taiwan This follows top US Democrat Nancy Pelosi's controversial visit to Taipei in the face of warnings from Beijing Some of the affected areas are just 12 miles off the island - the closest Beijing's military exercises have ever come Taiwan says the move, which stops ships and planes from using the space, violates its sovereignty and amounts to a blockade China sees self-ruled Taiwan - which lies 100 miles from the mainland - as a breakaway province that will eventually be under its control This comes at a time when US-China tensions have been growing Link China - Taiwan China - USA Russia - Everyone apart from China. It really could escalate into China & Russia versus the world if things are not calmed down quickly. Edited August 4, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 China demonstrating they can cut off Taiwan anytime they choose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Any excuse to post Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 My worry is that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was following lots of “military drills” on its border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) Quote USS Ronald Reagan and strike group underway The US Navy says the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier is heading towards a stretch of ocean that includes waters southeast of Taiwan. "USS Ronald Reagan and her strike group are under way in the Philippine Sea continuing normal, scheduled operations as part of her routine patrol in support of a free and open Indo-Pacific," a navy spokesperson said on Thursday. Link Big moments these, does China have the hunger for a war with the USA? Edited August 4, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 The world is really going to shit isn't it? I mentioned to this to my Dad who confidently said that China won't invade. I wouldn't be so confident. Xi Jinping is another authoritarian strongman who has been in power too long and has developed hawkish groupthink like Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2022 As I said on another thread, I just don’t know what Pelosi was thinking visiting Taiwan right now. Spectacularly bad timing that was always going to lead to a response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, HKP90 said: As I said on another thread, I just don’t know what Pelosi was thinking visiting Taiwan right now. Spectacularly bad timing that was always going to lead to a response. Unless that was the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 An invasion will cripple the worldwide economy including China and the US. Combined with Russia throttling the gas and oil supplies the short term future could be extremely bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Unless that was the point Not even the white house wanted it. It gives China an excuse to be aggressive to Taiwan, and drives them closer to Russia. If that was the intent, there are some grade A morons in power in America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 have to wonder if was it the Afghanistan cluster **** that was the eventual trigger for these long held desires of Russia and now maybe China ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, HKP90 said: As I said on another thread, I just don’t know what Pelosi was thinking visiting Taiwan right now. Spectacularly bad timing that was always going to lead to a response. There wasn't one in April when a whole bunch of senators turned up. Quote TAIPEI, Taiwan — U.S. lawmakers visiting Taiwan on Friday made a pointed and public declaration of their support for the self-governing island democracy while also issuing a warning to China. The six lawmakers met with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen on Friday morning and will also meet with the island's defense minister. The delegation, led by Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, also includes Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Sen. Robert Portman of Ohio, Sen. Benjamin Sasse of Nebraska and Rep. Ronny Jackson of Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, ml1dch said: There wasn't one in April when a whole bunch of senators turned up. Yeah there was, China threatened 'strong measures' in response to those visits. So then the US does it again. How is that not provocative? Look, I'm no fan of China's government, but this was a rash move at entirely the wrong time. A time where they are itching for an excuse that legitimises on the world stage an invasion of Taiwan. They will have seen the worldwide response to Russia, and it will have given them pause, but they can sell this as justification to countries that would otherwise have denounced their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Why couldnt the US say to china come join us for talks this could have all prevented 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Yeah there was, China threatened 'strong measures' in response to those visits And what were those "strong measures" that they then followed through with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted August 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: And what were those "strong measures" that they then followed through with? Could they not say they were being 'moderate' by not kicking off militarily then, and now once provoked again, they are exercising force? They are firing ballistic missiles now. It just plays into a 'reluctant use of force' narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, ml1dch said: And what were those "strong measures" that they then followed through with? Give them a chance- i cant see this ending well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Give them a chance- i cant see this ending well Is four months not long enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Genie said: An invasion will cripple the worldwide economy including China and the US. Combined with Russia throttling the gas and oil supplies the short term future could be extremely bleak. The long term future is already bleak. We needed some sort of global response to climate change years ago and now we are headed towards a minimum of the military industrial machine being the growth priority, or at the worst lots more war. This world wide military BS moving borders on maps is the global equivalent of shuffling around the deck chairs on the Titanic. Who gives a crap where the border is when all the crops fail? Can the latest stealth fighter drop a bomb on famine? Can a tank crush pestilence? Bunch of **** idiots in charge all over the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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