bickster Posted August 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, 8pints said: Lenny Kravitz I'd agree but the number of musos I know that think he's great has always baffled me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 The Ramones are possibly a good shout, but I can’t say for definite they’re overrated as I only really know their cover “Baby I love you” (and I rather like that song). But they’re definitely one of those bands where it’s cool to pretend you like them, “t-shirt bands”. AC/DC are another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, snowychap said: I'm not sure there's any need for any distinguishing. Surely overrated simply means something/someone about which there is a sufficiently popular opinion (be that measured commercially or critically or another way) with which one disagrees (often too authoritatively)? Sure. But there have already been comments in this thread to the effect that: "X can't be overrated, hardly any of my mates have heard of them" and "Y sell millions, but surely anybody with taste knows they're crap?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 No Artic Monkeys in the poll?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 We're also danger of drifting into "I don't 'get'..." territory, which is a slightly different thing (and thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, Shropshire Lad said: The Ramones are possibly a good shout, but I can’t say for definite they’re overrated as I only really know their cover “Baby I love you” (and I rather like that song). But they’re definitely one of those bands where it’s cool to pretend you like them, “t-shirt bands”. AC/DC are another. I don't have AC/DC down as a T-Shirt band. Sure there are lots of people wearing their T-Shirts but I always get the impression they also listen to them too, The Ramones however not I'm no big stadium rock fan but AC/DC are masters at what they do. Highway to He, Back In Black, Powerage, For Those About to Rock and High Voltage all great albums, some of which I own and do still listen to occasionaly (I own no T-Shirts though) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, AvfcRigo82 said: No Artic Monkeys in the poll?? This poll was first put up in 2005, their debut was in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: No Artic Monkeys in the poll?? no and for good reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Shropshire Lad said: This poll was first put up in 2005, their debut was in 2006. Ahhh. Thanks dude. ... but they're still shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, snowychap said: (often too authoritatively)? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: No Artic Monkeys in the poll?? OP is from 2005, a bit of thread necromancy going on. I've deleted the poll as it could never encompass everyone's opinion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: no and for good reason Yes, the good reason is that no-one with a clue rates them (Just to keep the @mjmooney / @snowychap side debate going) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Sure. But there have already been comments in this thread to the effect that: "X can't be overrated, hardly any of my mates have heard of them" and "Y sell millions, but surely anybody with taste knows they're crap?" Indeed. I was just moving the stress on the 'overrating' to it being a personal opinion going against a 'popular' grain. Of course, that personal opinion could be quite popularly held, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 The Ramones had an ear for a good pop melody that most bands would kill for. Sold sod all records though. I was lucky enough to see them once, albeit in the early 90s, way past their best. They were breathtakingly brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Yes, the good reason is that no-one with a clue rates them (Just to keep the @mjmooney / @snowychap side debate going) there's going to be an "old man doesnt get new music" debate going on soon by the sounds of it... seriously AM are brilliant, alex turners writing is head and shoulders above anyone in the last 20-30 years and they are pretty competent musicians with the drummer especially being very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Xann said: Edited August 22, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, villa4europe said: there's going to be an "old man doesnt get new music" debate going on soon by the sounds of it... seriously AM are brilliant, alex turners writing is head and shoulders above anyone in the last 20-30 years and they are pretty competent musicians with the drummer especially being very good Quite so, which is why this old man chose to single out a couple of old acts (Elvis and the Velvets). Everybody knows I don't get the newer acts, so I'm not really qualified to comment on whether they're overrated or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: there's going to be an "old man doesnt get new music" debate going on soon by the sounds of it... seriously AM are brilliant, alex turners writing is head and shoulders above anyone in the last 20-30 years and they are pretty competent musicians with the drummer especially being very good Except this old man knows you're talking shite and does get modern music as he buys it by the truckload Alex Turner's voice makes me want to punch kittens out of the top floor of a highrise block of flats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 22, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 22, 2018 @bickster Fair points re AC/DC, maybe I was little harsh. I do still think there’s a “brand” that people go for, but not to the same extent as the Ramones. I think it’s kind of difficult for the conversation to not stray into bands you just don’t get. You’re more inclined to think stuff you don’t get is overrated. If I look at stuff I like. I love pink floyd, but I sometimes think their stuff they did with Syd is put on too high a pedestal. Some of it is very good, but I think they became a much better band later on. I feel the Syd stuff is held in a high regard because of his “lost genius” status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Arctic Monkeys are the best band in my 34 year old life time, better than oasis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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