Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Click From seeing this video one thing we can at least all agree with their is bettert eam unity than there was and I think Bruce is a large reason for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 20, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2017 For me it really depends on what Xia's expectations are? Promotion obviously, but if Villa are not looking like automatic promotee's and by the end of January are out of the top six would he see that as failure and hit the panic button? Or, if Villa are still in touch with the playoff places would that be good enough for Xia until the end of the season? I would hazard a guess that due to the backing Bruce received on wages to bring Terry, Whelan and Snodgrass in, the expectation was automatic promotion so it will be interesting to see how Xia reacts to Bruce if the current trend in results continue over the Christmas period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, striker said: For me it really depends on what Xia's expectations are? Promotion obviously, but if Villa are not looking like automatic promotee's and by the end of January are out of the top six would he see that as failure and hit the panic button? Or, if Villa are still in touch with the playoff places would that be good enough for Xia until the end of the season? I would hazard a guess that due to the backing Bruce received on wages to bring Terry, Whelan and Snodgrass in, the expectation was automatic promotion so it will be interesting to see how Xia reacts to Bruce if the current trend in results continue over the Christmas period? Bang on. You cannot expect to spend the money Bruce has in assembling a squad like he has and not even reach the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But the original point said Bruce cant win against big teams which is wrong as stated there. We also beat Reading at Reading. We clearly struggle away from home at the big grounds at the moment. But like I have stated many times we have not played any of these sides at home and I think we are capable of beating anyone at home despite the Millwall result. I was talking about this season.. I'm not going to dig out Bruces results from the last 35 years to find out his complete record against the better sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But the original point said Bruce cant win against big teams which is wrong as stated there. We also beat Reading at Reading. We clearly struggle away from home at the big grounds at the moment. But like I have stated many times we have not played any of these sides at home and I think we are capable of beating anyone at home despite the Millwall result. I was talking about this season.. I'm not going to dig out Bruces results from the last 35 years to find out his complete record against the better sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But the original point said Bruce cant win against big teams which is wrong as stated there. We also beat Reading at Reading. We clearly struggle away from home at the big grounds at the moment. But like I have stated many times we have not played any of these sides at home and I think we are capable of beating anyone at home despite the Millwall result. I was talking about this season.. I'm not going to dig out Bruces results from the last 35 years to find out his complete record against the better sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But the original point said Bruce cant win against big teams which is wrong as stated there. We also beat Reading at Reading. We clearly struggle away from home at the big grounds at the moment. But like I have stated many times we have not played any of these sides at home and I think we are capable of beating anyone at home despite the Millwall result. I was talking about this season.. I'm not going to dig out Bruces results from the last 35 years to find out his complete record against the better sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Quote A record transfer and the end of an era - what Aston Villa fans can expect from 2018 AVFC are right in the mix for promotion - but what will 2018 bring? While 2017 didn’t bring the joy Aston Villa fans were hoping for as they danced around the fireplace to Auld Lang Syne, it has been a year of slow progression. Steve Bruce has shifted on some of the club’s costly flops and drafted in players he trusts, who he will ultimately live or die by. A solid start to the Championship campaign has slowed of late, but fifth-placed Villa are nicely poised to mount a final push for glory in the New Year. With that in mind, what can Villa fans expect - and hope for - from 2018? A Premier League return?There is one thing Villa simply must achieve next year: promotion. If May doesn’t bring an open top bus tour around the city centre, Can Villa reach the promised land? Well, that remains to be seen, but they’ve given themselves a better chance than last season. Villa had amassed 31 points from 22 games last season, they have six more at that stage this time around. Bruce probably won’t be in the job next year - that’s something he has admitted on countless occasions Bruce understands the need to return Villa to the Premier League, not just because the size of the club demands top flight football - but to ease the financial pressure another season in the second tier would bring. Financial Fair Play restrictions lifted This depends solely on Villa returning to the Premier League. The extra cash generated by a top flight return would allow Dr Tony Xia to unleash the purse strings a little in the transfer market. The difference in prize money and TV backing in the Premier League to the Championship is enormous. Villa are understood to have banked around £7million in total last season having finished 13th in the Championship and featured 16 times on Sky Sports. Meanwhile, the sides battling it out at the bottom of the Premier League banked an estimated minimum of £97million. Villa were - and continue to be - boosted by parachute payments in the Championship but the financial reward of a place in the Premier League makes it imperative that this is their final season playing the likes of Barnsley and Ipswich Town. A record transfer Chief executive Keith Wyness recently revealed Villa have the finances available to strengthen in such a way to be able to compete in the Premier League. Newcastle United boss Rafa Benitez saw his side storm to the Championship title last season but a lack of investment in the summer transfer window means they are paying the price for it now. But Villa will have the funds to acquire Premier League quality players, according to Wyness. And such is the inflated market we live in, Premier League quality players often cost north of £18million, which remains Villa’s record transfer fee. The deal to bring Darren Bent to Villa Park from Sunderland in 2011 remains the claret and blues’ bigger transfer outlay - but for how much longer? Villa Park redeveloped Xia has presented his plans to redevelop Villa’s iconic stadium to his fellow B6 bigwigs having formulated them in China. The 41-year-old has particularly large ambitions as far as the North Stand is concerned. “It will be something really different from what we can imagine from other clubs,” said Xia. The owner has already held meetings with Birmingham City council chiefs and hopes to begin work next year. Stay or go? Aston Villa boss provides an update on Tommy Elphick's future Sam and Snoddy to sign? If Bruce leads Villa to the Premier League, loan duo Sam Johnstone and Robert Snodgrass are expected to sign permanently. If the club is in the Championship, both deals may be a little difficult. Snodgrass doesn’t appear to have a future at West Ham and is thriving at Villa Park, as is Johnstone. The club will undoubtedly face competition to secure both players but their admiration for the current manager will play a big part. A tough Christmas schedule, a midfielder allowed to leave and Terry's big fan - the Aston Villa talking points The end of an era Few players go through their career as a one club man and that is exactly what Gabby Agbonlahor has been. The 31-year-old striker has been the Holte End’s darling - but also the Villan. After making his first team debut in 2005, Agbonlahor could well depart the club at the end of the current season. His contract is up for renewal and, as of yet, there has been no indication that a new deal will be on the table. Whatever division Villa begin next season in, it could well be their first without their current no.11 in 13 years. Interesting Read The Brucer Outers will be happy come May if we fail to get promoted Edited December 20, 2017 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Junxs said: I was talking about this season.. I'm not going to dig out Bruces results from the last 35 years to find out his complete record against the better sides Who is digging 35 years worth all I am interested is in his results at Villa and last season he did ok in some of the games. The way the fixture list has been (yet again a crap December fixture list) But to get promoted you need to beat the sides in front of you so regardless of fixtures we need to be winning some of these games no question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Interesting Read The Brucer Outers will be happy come May if we fail to get promoted That's if he is still here by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Who is digging 35 years worth all I am interested is in his results at Villa and last season he did ok in some of the games. The way the fixture list has been (yet again a crap December fixture list) But to get promoted you need to beat the sides in front of you so regardless of fixtures we need to be winning some of these games no question If you insist on including last season (though I dont see the relevance) then thats 3 wins in 15 games - a 20% win ratio against the top 6. Its still pathetic, though not as pathetic as 0% if you look at just this season I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Interesting Read The Brucer Outers will be happy come May if we fail to get promoted Doubt anyone here will be happy if we fail to get promoted 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: This thread has gone nuts. I‘m beginning to think that the Bruce-Ball has seriously effected some peoples perception of reality How's that glass house? Careful of those stones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Junxs said: If you insist on including last season (though I dont see the relevance) then thats 3 wins in 15 games - a 20% win ratio against the top 6. Its still pathetic, though not as pathetic as 0% if you look at just this season I suppose. The worst thing about it is the key games we have been without Kodjia so we don't know how those results would have gone had we had a fit kodj But it of course needs to be better if we have aspirations of going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Interesting Read The Brucer Outers will be happy come May if we fail to get promoted Why would anyone be happy if we fail to get promoted? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Why would anyone be happy if we fail to get promoted? i meant about bruce leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: i meant about bruce leaving Surely everyone would be happy with that if we fail to get promoted. Is there anyone who would want him to try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Surely everyone would be happy with that if we fail to get promoted. Is there anyone who would want him to try again? I think even if Bruce got us up some would still be calling for his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, Demitri_C said: I think even if Bruce got us up some would still be calling for his head Not calling for his head, he'd have done the job he was hired for. And for that I'd be thankful. But I'd certainly want him replaced for our PL rebuild and campaign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Interesting Read The Brucer Outers will be happy come May if we fail to get promoted That doesnt even scratch the surface of what will happen to the squad & staff should we not go up this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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