HanoiVillan Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: Not in terms of broadcast. But politicians like going on it because it's very clippable for social media. And if you're in London anyway with an hour to spare, why not. Fair point. And Times Radio probably wasn't on offer I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Not in terms of broadcast. But politicians like going on it because it's very clippable for social media. And if you're in London anyway with an hour to spare, why not. Its UK wide on DAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I missed the other day that Tracy Brabin has been selected as the Labour candidate for the West Yorkshire mayoralty, and has said that if she wins - and she must be heavily favoured - she would resign her Westminster seat, so Batley & Spen may well be one of the first by-elections in this Parliament. Yeah, it was between her and the leader of Bradford Council, Susan Hinchcliffe. They both spoke to our regional political committee, when they were touting the unions for nominations. That was one of the questions we asked her, if she was going to step down if she gets elected? The by-election should be interesting, if that come to fruition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, dAVe80 said: Yeah, it was between her and the leader of Bradford Council, Susan Hinchcliffe. They both spoke to our regional political committee, when they were touting the unions for nominations. That was one of the questions we asked her, if she was going to step down if she gets elected? The by-election should be interesting, if that come to fruition. The union split seems to have been very partisan, with all the predictable right-leaning unions backing Hinchcliffe. The seat is interesting; there does seem to have been some movement in the last ten years towards the Tories, but it would be an extremely disappointing loss for Labour, given that they managed to hold it by 4.5k votes in 2010 and 3.5k in 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: The union split seems to have been very partisan, with all the predictable right-leaning unions backing Hinchcliffe. The seat is interesting; there does seem to have been some movement in the last ten years towards the Tories, but it would be an extremely disappointing loss for Labour, given that they managed to hold it by 4.5k votes in 2010 and 3.5k in 2019. It's obviously a significant seat too for Labour, with regards to the sad circumstances Tracy Brabin got the seat. I'd hope Labour would hold it. I think it's definitely important that Labour take the Mayoral vote. They do tend to be a low turn out, which is never good for Labour in my experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, dAVe80 said: It's obviously a significant seat too for Labour, with regards to the sad circumstances Tracy Brabin got the seat. I'd hope Labour would hold it. I think it's definitely important that Labour take the Mayoral vote. They do tend to be a low turn out, which is never good for Labour in my experience. I know anything can happen, and you wouldn't want to take it too lightly, but Labour are in sole control of all 5 councils that make up the area for the West Yorks mayoralty, so it would be some going to lose from there, especially if the parties are roughly level-pegging in the polls. I think the by-election is more marginal. The margin was only 3.5k votes last time, and 6k votes went to a party of fairly far-right 'independents'. I still think Labour win it though, but it could be close-ish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: I know anything can happen, and you wouldn't want to take it too lightly, but Labour are in sole control of all 5 councils that make up the area for the West Yorks mayoralty, so it would be some going to lose from there, especially if the parties are roughly level-pegging in the polls. I think the by-election is more marginal. The margin was only 3.5k votes last time, and 6k votes went to a party of fairly far-right 'independents'. I still think Labour win it though, but it could be close-ish. I live a little bit further north, and Tees Valley was pretty similar. The Tories taking the Tees Valley Mayor election was the beginning of things falling apart for Labour in that area of the country. Obviously the B word played a big part in that so hopefully that won't play a part in this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Possibly one for the Tooting thread, but looking at the names 'Hamilton' and 'Reckless' there, one not only gets a sinking feeling, but also ends up wondering if the fact these guys can get elected in Wales isn't quite a bad sign for the prospects for much further devolution or independence, at least in the short term. I don't know who is voting for these idiots in the first place, whether they are mostly homegrown right-wingers or right-wing English transplants, but they're getting elected. By contrast, I find it hard to imagine they could ever win an election in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Possibly one for the Tooting thread, but looking at the names 'Hamilton' and 'Reckless' there, one not only gets a sinking feeling, but also ends up wondering if the fact these guys can get elected in Wales isn't quite a bad sign for the prospects for much further devolution or independence, at least in the short term. I don't know who is voting for these idiots in the first place, whether they are mostly homegrown right-wingers or right-wing English transplants, but they're getting elected. By contrast, I find it hard to imagine they could ever win an election in Scotland. Without googling, I think something like 20% of people in Wales in the last census self identified as English. It’s a real issue, there are towns right now where a tipping point is reached and the new home owners begin complaining that the locals are speaking Welsh and it feels threatening. I know it’s an old stereotype, but it’s happening. House names changed, anglicised place names, then a new party pops up calling itself ‘Abolish The Assembly’. Can’t imagine who votes for them... (I’m not suggesting it’s 100% black n white, just clearly a factor) Edited December 17, 2020 by chrisp65 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 17, 2020 Kinda releated (apols for the Reach Media Link) Quote Welsh is the fastest growing language being learned in the UK, says Duolingo Language-learning platform Duolingo found that Welsh attracted a higher rate of new learners than any other language among users in 2020 Wales Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Plaid seem like the best party out there at the moment. Leanne Wood seems unafraid to call out rubbish and they're pretty much the only socialist party left. Oh and she liked a tweet of mine so she obviously has really good taste. I'm fully supportive of Welsh independence so Plaid can govern and I can move there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, darrenm said: Plaid seem like the best party out there at the moment. Leanne Wood seems unafraid to call out rubbish and they're pretty much the only socialist party left. Oh and she liked a tweet of mine so she obviously has really good taste. I'm fully supportive of Welsh independence so Plaid can govern and I can move there. They’re as splintered as any other party in truth, and they’ve got all the usual scandals. They’ve just been small enough for the BBC and papers not to be that interested. I suspect that next year there will be more attention on their failings. I think of all the parties, I am probably most aligned with Plaid. What will be interesting will be the first post covid cross party independence march. But none of this is very Labour related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: They’re as splintered as any other party in truth, and they’ve got all the usual scandals. They’ve just been small enough for the BBC and papers not to be that interested. I suspect that next year there will be more attention on their failings. I think of all the parties, I am probably most aligned with Plaid. What will be interesting will be the first post covid cross party independence march. But none of this is very Labour related. As the last non Labour related post, this is the tweet Leanne liked 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 11 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Shows cross party how many evil rocket polishers there are in parliament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 'We should toughen the restrictions', says politician who has broken the restrictions by leaving a Tier 3 area on a non-essential trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 18, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: 'We should toughen the restrictions', says politician who has broken the restrictions by leaving a Tier 3 area on a non-essential trip. Have you checked your "facts" against what he is and is not allowed to do under "the restrictions" against his role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, blandy said: Have you checked your "facts" against what he is and is not allowed to do under "the restrictions" against his role? Nope. I'm not aware of special rules, but maybe there are some. But if I was trying to argue that the restrictions should be tightened, I would probably start by following the restrictions that currently exist. This was not an essential trip; his presence was not necessary for the successful running of the food bank; if he has to do a media call at a food bank, there are food banks in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 23, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 23, 2020 Labour vs the Unions fight for the new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2021 I presume the rumours of Starmer quitting tomorrow are just silly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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