westholmevillan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Zdenek Zemen is the man to get, his ultra attacking tactics will at least see us attack and if we do lose it be 5-3 or something so much better than 0-2 And guess what happens when you lose 5-3 every week.....thats zero points and GD of minus 76....even Lambert couldnt match that, or could he? hell of a lot better than 1 shot on target every game Have we really had that many?.....i always seem to go for for a pee at the wrong time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) This thread is far too depressing to read. Its full of managers that could breathe a massive breath of life back into the club but we all know not a single one of them is coming because Lambert will not be sacked. Edited February 11, 2015 by sexbelowsound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I dont think these calls for an ex-player for the 'feel good factor' are sensible. We wreak of the Newcastle team which went down. They appointed Shearer to 'lift the fans' and get them over the line. We all know how that worked out. For Colochini see Vlaar For Smith see Delph For Martins see Benteke For N'Zogbia...see N'Zogbia For Habib Beye see Cissokho For Duff see Cole For Owen see Gabby (ok, not a good one..but symbolic of a player who was all about pace who was of less use when that went) For Guthrie see Westwood For Bassong see Okore For R.Taylor see Lowton Fpr Ameobi see Kozak For Viduka see Bent For Butt see Sanchez For Gutierrez see Gil For S.Taylor see Clark Ashley couldn't sell the club for love nor money that year despite publicly putting the club for sale Edited February 11, 2015 by Djemba_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I dont think these calls for an ex-player for the 'feel good factor' are sensible. We wreak of the Newcastle team which went down. They appointed Shearer to 'lift the fans' and get them over the line. We all know how that worked out. For Colochini see Vlaar For Smith see Delph For Martins see Benteke For N'Zogbia...see N'Zogbia For Habib Beye see Cissokho For Duff see Cole For Owen see Gabby (ok, not a good one..but symbolic of a player who was all about pace who was of less use when that went) For Guthrie see Westwood For Bassong see Okore For R.Taylor see Lowton Fpr Ameobi see Kozak For Viduka see Bent For Butt see Sanchez For Gutierrez see Gil Ashley couldn't sell the club for love nor money that year despite publicly putting the club for sale I don't think any of those references are particularly good to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djemba_Villan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I dont think these calls for an ex-player for the 'feel good factor' are sensible. We wreak of the Newcastle team which went down. They appointed Shearer to 'lift the fans' and get them over the line. We all know how that worked out. For Colochini see Vlaar - leader + major cog of national team For Smith see Delph - at the time Smith was getting rave reviews for his box-box style For Martins see Benteke - Striker with big reputation but fizzled out For N'Zogbia...see N'Zogbia - stroppy winger For Habib Beye see Cissokho - Absolutely bog standard 5/10 full back For Duff see Cole - old has-been wide player 'playmaker' For Owen see Gabby (ok, not a good one..but symbolic of a player who was all about pace who was of less use when that went) For Guthrie see Westwood - Average young central midfielder destined to be championship standard For Bassong see Okore - promising CB who needed experience For R.Taylor see Lowton - Attacking full back Fpr Ameobi see Kozak - Injury prone big striker For Viduka see Bent - washed up previously free-scoring striker For Butt see Sanchez - Steady CM who doesn't keep up with the pace of the premier league For Gutierrez see Gil - flair player bought on to solve everyones woes. Ashley couldn't sell the club for love nor money that year despite publicly putting the club for sale I don't think any of those references are particularly good to be honest. Oh. Ah well, worth a go...i'll give some justification Edited February 11, 2015 by Djemba_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Oh. Ah well, worth a go. Haha, Sorry. I get the point you were making I just think player for player there is very little similarities. We just aren't very good and neither were they. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) He wouldn't be my first choice either but beggars can't be choosers and he's someone I think Randy would entertain given that he's had past Premier experience. If it was up to me I'd try and get Slaven Bilić because I think he's someone who'd have an immediate impact to get us out this mess we're in, and at the same time he would be a good long-term addition. Edited February 11, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrUnKeNbUm Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I would look to get in Sherwood till the end of the season with a tidy bonus if he keeps us up. then start fresh in the Summer, ideally someone like Laudrup, but would he really come to us with the position we are in? at least with Sherwood if we do get relegated then "the damage was already done" and it doesnt harm any future jobs. if he keeps us up then it just raises his stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) How can anyone say someone without Premier League experience would give us an immediate impact? Edited February 11, 2015 by Swerbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I would look to get in Sherwood till the end of the season . Taking over this Villa side, in this position would be an incredibly hard sell, no-one in their right mind would do it with only a 4 month contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Because I think getting in a name like Bilić would create a buzz amongst the fans that would give whole place a lift, and hopefully propel us towards safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I would look to get in Sherwood till the end of the season with a tidy bonus if he keeps us up. then start fresh in the Summer, ideally someone like Laudrup, but would he really come to us with the position we are in? at least with Sherwood if we do get relegated then "the damage was already done" and it doesnt harm any future jobs. if he keeps us up then it just raises his stock. So we have to sack Lambert, employ Sherwood, give him a bonus if we stay up and then get Laudrup in......do you not realise just how much that would cost?.......if only we'd spent that much in the last transfer window we may have been in a slightly better position now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrUnKeNbUm Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I would look to get in Sherwood till the end of the season with a tidy bonus if he keeps us up. then start fresh in the Summer, ideally someone like Laudrup, but would he really come to us with the position we are in? at least with Sherwood if we do get relegated then "the damage was already done" and it doesnt harm any future jobs. if he keeps us up then it just raises his stock. So we have to sack Lambert, employ Sherwood, give him a bonus if we stay up and then get Laudrup in......do you not realise just how much that would cost?.......if only we'd spent that much in the last transfer window we may have been in a slightly better position now! I agree its not ideal, but it would still cost a lot less than if we were to get relegated, especially with the new TV deal, with the money premier league teams get from (I think) next season................. we simply cannot afford to get relegated. Edited February 11, 2015 by DrUnKeNbUm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Always makes me laugh when the discussion of a possible new manager comes up, Martin Jol? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2015 Jesus. I'd take him. We need a miracle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I dont think these calls for an ex-player for the 'feel good factor' are sensible. We wreak of the Newcastle team which went down. They appointed Shearer to 'lift the fans' and get them over the line. We all know how that worked out. For Colochini see Vlaar For Smith see Delph For Martins see Benteke For N'Zogbia...see N'Zogbia For Habib Beye see Cissokho For Duff see Cole For Owen see Gabby (ok, not a good one..but symbolic of a player who was all about pace who was of less use when that went) For Guthrie see Westwood For Bassong see Okore For R.Taylor see Lowton Fpr Ameobi see Kozak For Viduka see Bent For Butt see Sanchez For Gutierrez see Gil Ashley couldn't sell the club for love nor money that year despite publicly putting the club for sale I don't think any of those references are particularly good to be honest. I think the N'Zogbia one rings true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 LIke I say he's (Jol) better than most suggestions and we've got to be realistic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I would look to get in Sherwood till the end of the season with a tidy bonus if he keeps us up. then start fresh in the Summer, ideally someone like Laudrup, but would he really come to us with the position we are in? at least with Sherwood if we do get relegated then "the damage was already done" and it doesnt harm any future jobs. if he keeps us up then it just raises his stock. So we have to sack Lambert, employ Sherwood, give him a bonus if we stay up and then get Laudrup in......do you not realise just how much that would cost?.......if only we'd spent that much in the last transfer window we may have been in a slightly better position now! I agree its not ideal, but it would still cost a lot less than if we were to get relegated, especially with the new TV deal, with the money premier league teams get from (I think) next season................. we simply cannot afford to get relegated. That would be great if you could guarantee it...but you cant and thats the reason that it wont happen IMO.....as much as I dislike Pulis, I think he was the one who could have got us out of the mire. Alas, its too late now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I think we think to long term - all this cobblers about 5 years plans, DOF, CCO etc - Right now we need a bloke who kick the players up the backside - get a reaction - and get us over the line......If next season the ass kicker of manager starts to flounder - address it then. We seems to be paralysed in these long term strategies - as of 11/02/2014 there is a management problem at villa - get off the fence address it now Edited February 11, 2015 by smetrov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 11, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 11, 2015 Tuchel? Prandelli? Laudrup? Are any of these gettable? First two not working still last I heard so could be quick appointments if given a serious offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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