The_Lions_Roar Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 "i don't know what his going to say that's me being honest with you" then follows it up with "i know the situation and randy will say what his got to say" which is it Paul? What about the bit? "I think he's been fair with everybody about exactly what's happened??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I fail to see how the likes of Guardiola, Mourinho, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, to name a few, (If it was possible to get these managers) could not do a better job with the same resources as......Lambert. Simeone took over almost the exact same 11 that starts now aswell, never underestimate the influence of a manager. In my view its doesn't matter what our 11 is to be where we are means he's doing a poor job. Ok our 11 is average bar 1-2 players but they should still be up for games, motivated, well drilled and able to do even the basics. Look at stoke they absolutely destroyed us and all they really did was do all the basics right, nothing more than that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think there is some fans putting the cart before the horse. I never expected champions league or The FA Cup, I never expected the League cup(giving my age away) or a Europa cup place...so where this expectation myth has come from god only knows. what I was hoping for was, To see the back post defended at set pieces, a bit of pass and movement, a bit of shape and structure, a bit of closing down and willingness to compete....If that is high expectation, then II think the management at Villa have a bloody cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) I fail to see how the likes of Guardiola, Mourinho, Simeone, Ancelotti, Klopp, to name a few, (If it was possible to get these managers) could not do a better job with the same resources as......Lambert. Simeone took over almost the exact same 11 that starts now aswell, never underestimate the influence of a manager. In my view its doesn't matter what our 11 is to be where we are means he's doing a poor job. Ok our 11 is average bar 1-2 players but they should still be up for games, motivated, well drilled and able to do even the basics. Look at stoke they absolutely destroyed us and all they really did was do all the basics right, nothing more than that. .....absolutely spot on , why more can't comprehend this I simply don't know.....It is about managers and their ability to judge. Edited May 1, 2014 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncb Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Now hes talking about signing players like Holtby, Hernandez and Lescott? Suggesting he only plays the current brand of football due to lack of funds. Is this guy serious?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It shocking we rarely see us lose where we can truthfully say the team played there absolute hearts out. Or they played to the best of there ability. Its tactics, shape and motivation which to me is the factoring problem. My personal view is, if not before, which is arguable, recently its definitely turned into a managerial issue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Now hes talking about signing players like Holtby, Hernandez and Lescott? Suggesting he only plays the current brand of football due to lack of funds. Is this guy serious?? Exactly what McLeish said after he was sacked!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Now hes talking about signing players like Holtby, Hernandez and Lescott? Suggesting he only plays the current brand of football due to lack of funds. Is this guy serious?? Erm yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 "I'm not just talking about those three lads because it would be wrong for me to talk about them" Um... Paul... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? I'd imagine so. Must be boring to try and argue with zero evidence to support it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Basically "I've done a shit job, but give me Hernandez, Holtby and Lescott and I will try do a better one" Edited May 1, 2014 by foreveryoung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) error! Edited May 1, 2014 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Oh I agree, I'm bored of people expecting to change people's opinion on both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Oh I agree, I'm bored of people expecting to change people's opinion on both sides. you won't change peoples opinions....by definition its their opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Yes, you can't educate pork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Yes, you can't educate pork. But you can tell lots of porkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Lambert hopes for shopping spree 01 MAY 2014 Paul Lambert has suggested Aston Villa should abandon their 'bargain basement' transfer policy next season if they manage to avoid relegation in the coming weeks. Lambert has consistently toed the line and spoken in defence of the club's frugality since arriving from Norwich nearly two years ago. But with question marks around his own future and rumours that owner Randy Lerner wants to sell up, the manager has changed tack after being linked with the likes of Javier Hernandez, Lewis Holtby and Joleon Lescott this summer. "I think a football club of this size needs that calibre of player," he said ahead of Saturday's crunch Barclays Premier League visit of Hull. "I'm not just talking about those three lads because it would be wrong for me to talk about them but we need that level of player for the size of this club, wherever they come from. "This club needs big players. "It's not acceptable for this club to keep doing this, it's been four years of battling against relegation. It's too big a football club to do this. That's the reality. I think everybody knows that." Asked how likely it is Villa could attract - or afford - that level of player, Lambert said: "The chairman will come out and say what he's got to say in May time, I think. "I don't know what he's going to say and that's me being totally honest with you. "This football club, with the tradition and history it's got, should not be fluctuating like this. You are where you are. "The chairman will come out and be honest with everybody. It's his football club and I don't think anyone can ever be critical of what he's done for this club. There's no way anyone could do that and I'm pretty sure he'll say what he's got to say." Lambert denies his apparent change of stance will irk the club's hierarchy. "I'm not breaking ranks," said the former Colchester boss. "I'm just saying that a club this size needs to be up there (competing). "I know the situation and Randy will say what he's got to say. I think he's been fair with everybody about exactly what's happened and he'll (speak) when the time's right." http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/lambert-hopes-for-shopping-spree-30236225.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I wanted him as our manager when McLeish was sacked. But then that didn't blind me to the awful job he was doing. Nothing about hindsight, many fans could see exactly what was happening with this team. I see a few who can no longer defend the manager have jumped at the chance to defend the idea that fans still want him here. Who cares? He's going. Or maybe they've got bored of repeating themselves and getting the same responses? Touché Yes, you can't educate pork. But you can tell lots of porkies. Or even be mutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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