Butterfingers Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Since the MON era, I don't think theres any Premier league team who hasn't scored against us in the last minute. On the flip side, I can only think of Weimans goal at home to Fulham & Young away at Everton where we've won games at the death. I thought we'd combatted this but still it continues. Why can't we see games out? Its not down to the manager because we've had several since 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Its engraved into the club and we'll never get rid of it. We'll always concede in the last 10 minutes of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Yes, we do, just not very often. To be fair though today was the first last minute winner we've conceded in ages. Edited February 23, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 We would have against Cardiff, were it not for a wonder-save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Actually, if you look at the stats, which I can only find in 10 minute chunks, we are 2-4 down in goals scored in the last 10 minutes of matches. Much better than Fulham who have conceded 14, Cardiff (12), Norwich (9) and West Ham (8). Our real problem is that we don't score enough and concede too many in the first hour of matches (our record is 13-25 in all matches). According to the stats site I am looking at, we have NEVER gone in at half time at Villa Park this season with a lead. This sounds so awful I really should check it but the disappointment of finding it was true would be too great. Edited February 23, 2014 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I'm pig sick of these last minute kicks in the bollocks. It's the most sickening way to lose a match & over the years we appear to have monopolised it. It wouldn't be so bad either if we could at least have our fair share of last minute winners to balance it up too but it so rarely, rarely happens. It's just so bloody frustrating & nauseating. :bang: :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Have we really monopolised it though? I've always been of the opinion that we're not as cursed or unlucky as people think when it comes to these sorts of things, we just notice it more because we pay far more attention to Villa than any other club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It had certainly hardly happened at all this season, as my stats above show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Simple answer: Yes we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Seems like Villa have been victims of this phenomenon to a degree way beyond any other club over the last 15 years or so. Sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It feels like we don't even score goals, let alone last minute ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 24, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2014 Our problem is we only play well for 45 minutes of games. If we don't score in that 45 minutes, like first half against Newcastle or the second half against Cardiff, then we're **** unless we hold on for a 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hitzlsperger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Actually, if you look at the stats, which I can only find in 10 minute chunks, we are 2-4 down in goals scored in the last 10 minutes of matches. Much better than Fulham who have conceded 14, Cardiff (12), Norwich (9) and West Ham (8). Our real problem is that we don't score enough and concede too many in the first hour of matches (our record is 13-25 in all matches). According to the stats site I am looking at, we have NEVER gone in at half time at Villa Park this season with a lead. This sounds so awful I really should check it but the disappointment of finding it was true would be too great. I think West Brom is the only league game where we've scored in front of the North Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 How about this for a monopoly/ from MON in 2006 until the end of the Houlier season, all 90th min goals; Stoke home (2-2) 01.03.09 Liverpool Home (0-1) 29.12.09 WHU away (1-2) 04.11.09 Charlton away (1-2) 30.12.06 Spurs away (4-4) Arsenal away (1-1) 17.03.08 Stoke away (2-3) 02.08.08 Man U away (2-3) Marcheda goals 05.04.09 Everton away (3-2) Lescott Chelsea away (4-4) Stoke away (1-2) 30.09.10 & I'm not saying I've covered them all A few other happy memories: Bolton away (2-3) 88th min winner, Houlier season Fulham away Bullard winner 86mins 03.02.08 WHU away Ashton winner 88mins Blackburn away Dunne winner 88mins Liverpool away (2-2 when Harewood scored) Crouch equaliser 88mins Gerrard winner the same season at VP 87mins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Out of context, e. g without any comparison with other clubs, that information has no meaning. Also, it's a bit jumbled up isn't it? For example, we scored the final goal in the Chelsea 4-4 game - Gareth Barry from the penalty spot - whereas Stoke on 1/3/09 for example was them getting a last-minute draw. I suspect that game has had a distorting effect on people's perception of how often we concede late goals. Edited February 24, 2014 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Not out of context as I see it. I don't recall us conceding as regularly pre- MON. I included the Chelsea game, as well as the Everton game in which we also scored the last goal as further examples of conceding at the death. All other games saw us concede 1 or 2 points. If you want me to put it into context, how about I compare the list to our own ability to score at the death? Its probably running at 50% of that list & don't forget, I've excluded the McCleish & Lambert seasons which would make the gap even bigger, if included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Yes, we do, just not very often. To be fair though today was the first last minute winner we've conceded in ages. I wouldn't call "Boxing Day" ages really Edited February 24, 2014 by islingtonclaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I don't know the stats and I'm certainly not going to check it out, but I reckon that the reason why we never score late goals is because we are a poor team! It's also exactly why we get fewer penalties, because we spend less time in the box on the other side of the pitch. It's science! I think Man Utd scored the most goals late on last season (when they won the league) and this year they are poor and they haven't scored many goals in the end. Poor teams also tire at the end against better teams and invite a bukkake of opportunities to score from 80 minutes onwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 The list that I posted concerns results mainly from seasons when we were finishing top 6. I accept under Lambert & McCleish could be down to the team being poor but the MON side certainly wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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