Voinjama Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Henry played as a striker in Arsenals double winning 01/02 season and in that world cup. They flopped in 2002 because of arrogance and complacency after winning the previous 2 tournaments. Leboeuf even said that They flopped in 2010 because of internal rifts within the camp, and inept management from Domenech. I got my dates mixed up. When I posted that I somehow misread the table on wikipedia thought he was still at Juventus. Arrogance and complacency in 2002... unsatisfactory explanation. Great teams are often arrogant, but also hard-working. What made them complacent? Maybe like 2010 there was some conflict within the camp. Bloody hell Con, you really went in with your last post. Was that necessary? Also regarding 2002, I read an interview with Leboeuf in FOURFOURTWO magazine, and that was one of the reasons he gave for their poor performance. He was a centre back for their games. Edited May 11, 2014 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Sometimes the losers have the better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The winners of the World Cup must have some excellent players? Who'd have thought it. That's useful information if you want to make a prediction, isn't it? 2014 - England GK - Hart CB - Jagielka CM - Barkley FW - Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Provisional Spain World Cup squad Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez Midfielders: Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Sergio Busquets, Santi Cazorla, Juan Mata, David Silva, Ander Iturraspe, Thiago Alcantara, Jesus Navas, Pedro Forwards: Diego Costa, David Villa, Fernando Llorente, Alvaro Negredo, Fernando Torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 have to admit i dont know ander iturraspe isco and irralamendi dont even make the squad.. will be surprised when they trim it down if cazorla goes, looking at that i think cazorla, torres, moreno, carvajal, iturraspe, mata and negredo will be the ones cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Best squad by a considerable distance. Weather suits them too. Hope they implode so I don't have to suffer their tedious tiki-taka at the business end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I really hope Spain get to the final and Messi scores a last minute winner in the final. Edited May 13, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Don't know who Moreno is, Villa and Torres aren't really good enough but will be at the back end of the squad anyone. Little harsh on Diego Lopez to completely miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andykeenan Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 BBC pundits Juninho, Thierry Henry, Rio Ferdinand, Clarence Seedorf ,Brad Friedel ITV pundits Roy Keane Lee Dixon Gus Poyet, Gordon Strachan, Ian Wright, Patrick Vieira, Glenn Hoddle, Martin O’Neill Andros Townsend ITV will have a studio base in Rio de Janeiro to bring home to viewers the impact of the tournament from one of Brazil's iconic cities, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Don't know who Moreno is, Villa and Torres aren't really good enough but will be at the back end of the squad anyone. Little harsh on Diego Lopez to completely miss out. Left back for Sevilla, been pretty good this season, but not outstanding. Only 21, I don't expect him to make the final squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Provisional Spain World Cup squad Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez Midfielders: Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Sergio Busquets, Santi Cazorla, Juan Mata, David Silva, Ander Iturraspe, Thiago Alcantara, Jesus Navas, Pedro Forwards: Diego Costa, David Villa, Fernando Llorente, Alvaro Negredo, Fernando Torres Fantastic squad. No Martinez, Isco or Illarramendi either. Wonderful depth in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Provisional Spain World Cup squad Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez Midfielders: Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Sergio Busquets, Santi Cazorla, Juan Mata, David Silva, Ander Iturraspe, Thiago Alcantara, Jesus Navas, Pedro Forwards: Diego Costa, David Villa, Fernando Llorente, Alvaro Negredo, Fernando Torres Fantastic squad. No Martinez, Isco or Illarramendi either. Wonderful depth in midfield Martinez has been included as a defender for some reason.. Edited May 13, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 ITV pundits Roy Keane Lee Dixon Gus Poyet, Gordon Strachan, Ian Wright, Patrick Vieira, Glenn Hoddle, Martin O’Neill Andros Townsend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 BBC pundits are so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Provisional Spain World Cup squad Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas, Pepe Reina, David de Gea Defenders: Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Raul Albiol, Juanfran, Jordi Alba, Daniel Carvajal, Alberto Moreno, Cesar Azpilicueta, Javi Martinez Midfielders: Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Sergio Busquets, Santi Cazorla, Juan Mata, David Silva, Ander Iturraspe, Thiago Alcantara, Jesus Navas, Pedro Forwards: Diego Costa, David Villa, Fernando Llorente, Alvaro Negredo, Fernando Torres Fantastic squad. No Martinez, Isco or Illarramendi either. Wonderful depth in midfield Martinez has been included as a defender for some reason.. D'oh! Thanks for pointing that out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I mean he can play at CB, in fact I think he's played CB for Bayern for most of the season.. And when you consider Spain's style of play, they may play him there because of his passing and technical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'd start de Gea over Casillas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Im the opposite, I'd start Casillas, despite his lack of appearances for Real in the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Nasri has been left out by France, his girlfriend has just tweeted **** France and **** deschamps shit manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Strange, he's been very good (and consistent) this season. Clichy left out too. ... https://twitter.com/_Anara_ Edited May 13, 2014 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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