jackbauer24

Maybe that's my confusion! But then based on the two other responses to my post - they are saying everyone should have it. The talk in the media is that there is a hierarchy and eventually everyone should have it basically. "Will you take the vaccine?" is being asked of mid 20s celebrities. They're being asked if they'd happily give it to their kids too. So are we thinking everyone should have it or not?

I'm confused (again). Why exactly does everyone need a vaccine? We don't all have a flu jab, just the people who are susceptible. I see the argument to "protect others" but surely if you're vaccinating in priority order, they no longer need that same protection. So once the people who are elderly, sick or have high risk factors have been vaccinated aren't you covered and you can go for the much talked about herd immunity in everyone else? A large amount of which will be asymptomatic anyway. If this is the case, you're back to 'normal' in a fraction of the time. Why do kids need vaccinating after granny has already been?

Get the feeling Liverpool might try and get a little revenge here... But rather they do it in the cup than in the league!

It's really simple for me, forget all the issues about consistency or application, if you can't celebrate a goal anymore then football is dead. Since it came in, when was the last time you really celebrated a goal?! We're waiting for it to be checked and that initial buzz of a goal has faded. I hate it. If it must stay, replays should be watched once at full speed and if it's not clear and obvious error from that then the game should be left uninterrupted. We'd go from 3 or 4 VAR checks a game to 3 or 4 in a game week. Personally I'd scrap it, football should be the same rules from grassroots to Premier League.

People may point to the early substitution or the absolutely mental decision to overturn the penalty (levelling up the sending off I suspect) but the truth is we just weren't at it. Again. At home. Against weak opposition. McGinn and Mings were awful. Targett, Watkins, Luiz all half asleep. Grealish off his standard and with no outlet Trezeguet had a million chances but was so concerned with smashing it every time that he was never going to score, absolutely no composure at all. Look at Welbeck's goal for an example of composure. Trez just put his laces through it every time like a Sunday league player. I'm not giving him MOTM for smashing it as hard as you can. Martinez only one who really played well, snuffing out multiple opportunities before they developed. I got a slap on the wrist for being so hard on them at half time but, despite a brief hope we'd start playing in the second half, it went exactly the way I feared. I have to strongly question the attitude of this squad when they continuously don't bother showing up against the more average teams. I'm far more annoyed at our attitude than I am at a questionable penalty call. We didn't deserve even a point.

Love to be wrong, don't worry!! I'm venting, shove the words down my throat!!

It won't be the first time... It'll be the third time in 8 matches. So the question is, are we more likely to be able to maintain remarkable results against top 6 teams or start showing a proper approach to these sorts of games? These games are far more important than the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool ones in the long run.

Brighton are awful but fortunately for them, the unprofessional showboaters have arrived this week. You have to questioning the attitude of players that lose to such poor teams reguarly when they have shown they are perfectly capable of playing at a much better standard. I don't care how 'close' it is or that we 'should' be winning, it's quite clear that Brighton have this in the bag today and will run away with it in second half on the counter. McGinn has been awful. Trezeguet is so intent of scoring on his 50th appearance that he's wasted countless opportunities smashing it in to row ZZ. Watkins has been asleep and committed to nothing. Luiz is standing off his player every time. Targett wants to take about twenty touches too many. Mings still thinks he's all that and his passing and basic positioning gets worse every week. MOTM is Martinez and nothing in the first half has suggested that's likely to change in the second. I'm genuinely fuming with that half, way too many players have shown such a poor attitude and it's only due to quality from the likes of Grealish and how defensive Brighton are that it's close at all. Analyse the chances and really it shoukd be 3 or 4 to Brighton. Fuming.

You write really well for a nine year old, but I think your teacher would be disappointed to see you swearing like that...

4-3 flatters us because, despite having ended the game with more shots, it was only after Saints took their foot off the gas that we got moving. A better team, maintaining their focus, would have strolled that with another few goals. They possibly underestimated our ability to do so but, based on the game, it was probably fair! Two late goals really makes it look closer than it was, they were seeing that out after the hour and being 4 up. The midfield, despite gaving effectively five in there, looked over run. I don't see that passion or fight from any of our players. No one really hassles. We're, once again, losing the fight before skill even comes in to it. Looking over all the games so far, I'd say we look like we'll probably be safe but I doubt we're really a top half team. Liverpool all came together but every other game hasn't exactly been impressive.

I will drop this in but with minimal comment... What exactly is incorrect about this? Why is it not allowed to be discussed? If it's wrong, I want to know it's wrong with evidence as to why it's wrong. We can go from 1 death to 10 deaths and the number of people dying has "increased 900%" when spun 'correctly' but it's still 'just' ten people. People do die unfortunately. There are some nuts who think it doesn't exist, but there are others, including well renowned scientists, who go "ok, it exists, we were worried to begin with but now we have more data and evidence we can continually reevaluate as all good scientists do and the actions being taken (and that have been taken) are completely disproportionate. Panic and fear of seeming heartless has replaced data, science and analysis from what I can see...

Whilst getting in to all the permutations of who Leicester may, or may not, have available, let's just pause to see how far we've come since last we played them. Losing 4-0 and resigned to relegation... Look at the squad from that day to the probable one for this fixture; Reina now MARTINEZ Guilbert now CASH Engels now KONSA MINGS TARGETT Nakamba now BARKLEY LUIZ Hourihane now MCGINN Elmo now TREZEGUET (with Traore waiting) GREALISH Samatta now WATKINS It's pretty incredible really. We may well lose and come back down to earth but it's hard to deny that we've not made huge strides.

Again, I'm thinking... So?! Positive cases mean NOTHING. 770 young adults... 10% have any symtoms. Of those 78, what are the symptoms? How serious are they? Have any needed medical intervention or even hospitalisation? Positive cases, in themself, are irrelevant. We could have 10 million positive cases tomorrow and it is irrelevant if no one is actually ill/ in need of medical intervention. We need to stop looking at cases (90% asymptomatic) as a barometer of our grasp on the virus and start looking at data a bit more analytically.

Martinez MOTM. Earnt us at least two points already (probably three as they'd have defended 1-0 even better). And furthermore, despite the brilliant penalty save, it was his coolness with the ball at his feet and his willingness to come for crosses that was most impressive. He'll have busier games though. And yet, despite playing against ten men for the best part of 80mins we're talking about OUR keeper! Ramsdale was rarely troubled and the goal was soft. McGinn, love him, but by far the worst player out there. Should have been off instead of the preset remove Hourihane for a striker/attacker move. Grealish very poor too, Luiz only one seemingly up to speed across midfield. Trez... Poor. Cash, well I had my reservations but he was outstanding. Really impressed and calm on the ball. Seemed to get more decent crosses in than anyone else. Konsa, even forgetting the goal, is fast becoming our best defender. That's partially due to his progress but also Mings' standards dropping. Targett wasn't good really either. Watkins was solid but got very little supply. So, overall, poor. Red card and Martinez saved us. But, like others have said, we'd have got less out of that last season. Only improvements to come too. Will take poor performance wins all season long if I have to!!

Well we start our campaign tomorrow night in what has been a mental start to the season. Loads of goals, no draws at all yet and a frantic start by all teams. So... 0-0 tomorrow yeah?!

So let's review the window so far... Based on post lockdown team we've brought in, what we can guess, are four first team players. Martinez is a massive improvement on Reina/Nyland. Imagine he's also an improvement on the unlucky Heaton. Cash is...well, despite the cost, I'm not sure he is an improvement over Guilbert and probably should be aiming for Elmo's back up role at present. Watkins is already miles ahead of Samatta and Davis so big initial improvement. Wesley still in the fight when he returns. Now Traore. Got to feel it's at least a babystep improvement over El Ghazi, possibly a lot more. Grealish is staying, McGinn is getting back to full fitness, Luiz has found his feet and is really pushing on. All in all it points to a comfortable jump forward in terms of progress. However, defensively speaking we are incredibly shaky. Taylor, Hause, Elmo are all probably going to feature more than we want. Konsa, Guilbert, Cash are all unlikely to be consistent. Mings has a tendency to get a little complacent. Targett is somewhere in the middle of all that and I'm guessing Engels isn't sticking around. It's not strong. It might be greedy, but I really think we need a good quality CB, probably more than we need Rashica...

There are plenty of nice guys in the world. There are plenty of strong guys too. Still doesn't make them good strikers. Keinan, for all his likeability and/or hardwork and hustling, is not a striker. At best, he's an old fashioned Heskey type player, but even then he doesn't score goals. That player doesn't fit the modern game, even if he was good at it. In the Premier League I'd be shocked if he scored more than a goal a season. Championship, may even up to five. He wouldn't push double figurss until he was in League 1 or 2. Sorry guys, he may be 'nice' but he's not a striker. He's also older than Luiz. There is absolutely no future for him at this club other than to try and get a fee for him!

I'm going to bite my tongue a little but cases are completely irrelevant. In fact, there's an argument it's not a bad thing. It's still lumped in with the moronic covid denying mind-control idiots, but there is a strong SCIENTIFIC belief that we are no longer really in a pandemic, we are getting cases with no real impact of the other more relevant data points. I posted (although it already had been earlier) a video that heavily questions the actual interpretation of numbers. Here's one from mainstream media; I'll leave you with one thought; why is it a rule of six? Where does that come from, why not 3, 8, 15? Well studied scientific research or buzz word politics?! We're weeks away from the same simplistic lines we got for Brexit... "Let's get Covid done" The data shows clearly a spike, there is no longer a spike in anything but cases. Serious questions need asking, are we letting the science lead us or the politics?

He touches upon the lockdown when he mentions Brazil (famously anti LD) and Peru which had an extremely militant lockdown. Although, to be fair, I have no idea whether the data or focus of it is transparent. He also mentions Sweden quite heavily which is the outlier with regards lockdown in Europe. I don't think it'd be fair to sweep it under the rug as overly biased but equally I'm interested as to why it might be. What data contradicts his theory?

So why aren't people talking about this? If it's a legitimate SCIENTIFIC debate why is it being bunched in with the crackpot theories of secret government mind control?! This points strongly to there being a genuine question as to how data/modelling is being done. Where is the data for current restrictions and/or actions? Are we being led by fear/policy rather than science?

My prediction is crudely based on incomings assuming no major injuries or departures. No signings... 18th With Cash... 18th And with Watkins 16th And with Martinez 12th and with Rashica/Benrahma 11th and with Buendia/RM 10th So currently I predict 16th. Get Martinez in and I think that will be huge as we've been so weak there (even Reina didn't cover himself in glory) and 12th is obtainable. Add a few more bits of quality and maybe even sneak top half. I don't think anything higher is obtainable without a far bigger overhaul than we could/should do. I'll take steady improvement over recklessness any day.

I debated posting this. I am not a raving conspiracy loon or likely to automatically question authority, yet I do like to work out the why behind things. I am not one of those people who believe it's all a lie, I even recognise some actions like stadium closures (especially at the start) may have been wise - despite what I'm about to post even questioning that. I wear masks and follow the rules as that is what society dictates and have actually, on a personal level, enjoyed lockdown in the main. However, the data handling/conclusions and reactions to that data have always greatly confused me. A case in point being the current 'rise' in cases being a bad thing... when we're testing more and hospital admissions/deaths are not changing (even allowing for the two/three week delay). So, where I'm I going with this? I think education and knowledge is far more important than media and political grandstanding. However, I love to be wrong! I'm a teacher and I tell my kids constantly that if you're wrong, you're learning. Politicians and media outlets rarely share this philosophy! So, can someone who is far more knowledgeable than me counter some of the data put forth by this guy... He doesn't seem to be a quack and isn't ranting and raving but quietly points to reams of data. I'm sure he has an agenda too though; I'm interested in what people on this thread think - generally it errs more on the Pro-lockdown side or the belief that it is all horrific. Genuinely interested in people's views (warning - LONG video); WARNING 2 - This is very data driven, there is little emotion given to death. But even I grimaced at the term 'tinderbox' although I understand it's scientific impact...

So, what you're saying is we look quite strong?

Buendia > Benrahma But I suspect we're not after either. Buendia is one of the few links we've had this summer that I'd genuinely be excited by as I actually know who is and think he's bloomin' good! I know strictly they're not a direct comparison but I doubt we'd be after both, we're also far more in need on the right...

I didn't know anything about Rashica. I was never overly fussed if he signed or he didn't. I'm not sure if he'd improve us or not. (lack of knowledge, no reflection on player) But it'd be damn funny to sign a player that one poster on here has been crowing about us not signing