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This is utter and complete bollocks. ^ Arrogance.

In my opinion he had a poor game today, but certainly not as bad as many make it out.

If there such a thing like a lucky assist, is there lucky key passes as well?

It's not about giving Bannan credit. It's about you coming into this thread claiming that he's a great player when it's pretty clear to every one else that he's quite far away from that. You've claimed that we've lost games because Bannan was left out. You've claimed that we'd take more points this season if he played every game. you've made comparisons(not directly) to Inesita and Xavi. You choose stats that back up your argument, yet you completely ignore other stats or the facts about how the stats were derived. When people point out his weaknesses your response is that it's not in his job description. You're being very dogmatic in the debate. I can agree with you that Bannan is a good cross/corner taker. And that he's been instructed to do floated corners. Westwood does floated corners as well. Two of Bentekes goals has been from corners with a outwards swirl on the far post. He also have good crosses from deep, turning play to the other side. However, this does not make him a great or good player, it only makes him a good player at crossing the ball. I think it's fair to say thats he's a luxury player. In the same way you claim that Delph's successful pass % is irrelevant because most of them are backward passes, one could argue to some extent that Bannans successfull cross% is irrelevant because none of the leads to goals.

Con, it's very amusing that you use your eyes to judge Westwood but your stats to judge Bannan. If you were consistent you would be here saying, blimey, Westwood has got more assists in 2 games than Bannan has all season. Bannan is actually quite shit. Admit it. Go on. Westwood is lightyears ahead of Bannan in pretty much every aspect of the game. Great player, a year or two more under his belt he'll be a class player.

Think we should rename the thread to The Con Thread.

What the **** man? WHAT THE ****?

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In a complete disregard of opposition, their current form and our current form. And the most important aspect the performance of the 21 other players on the pitch. Bannan might have a horrible day, yet play in a winning side if he gets carried by his teammates. That Bannan win % stats you keep spouting around is completely irrelevant to the discussion on whether Barry Bannan is a good player or not.

Didn't any one notice the protection he gave Lowton on the right side during the game as well?

There was plenty of people who spoke of rotten eggs in the basket and troublemakers. "Is this all McLeish fault?" was mentioned more the once. I had the impression that most posters where under the opinion that "our players don't give a ****" at the end of the season. Steven Ireland VT player of the year As for the attitude after the transfer window, you pretty much lead the charge of shooting down every signing that was made that summer. Plenty of people expressed their surprise over the players signed but also excitement and belief in them. And you used that Robbie Savage article to back up your point over and over again. Now, a lot of your critique of Lambert is justified, you were right in many of the points you were raising before and under the season. But the things you're claiming in the quote above is just completely wrong. Either you remember what suits you, or you have a very poor memory. I've said a lot of people blamed Mcleish for last year and a lot of people didn't think we'd be in a relegation battle at the end of the summer. I think that's a fair assessment. What you just said, sounds to me quite different from what you said in the post I quoted. At least how I interpret it. Maybe it's me who's lost in translation. Good day to you Elton.

How many of Bannans corners has resulted in a "shot on target" or shot at goal?

There was plenty of people who spoke of rotten eggs in the basket and troublemakers. "Is this all McLeish fault?" was mentioned more the once. I had the impression that most posters where under the opinion that "our players don't give a ****" at the end of the season. Steven Ireland VT player of the year As for the attitude after the transfer window, you pretty much lead the charge of shooting down every signing that was made that summer. Plenty of people expressed their surprise over the players signed but also excitement and belief in them. And you used that Robbie Savage article to back up your point over and over again. Now, a lot of your critique of Lambert is justified, you were right in many of the points you were raising before and under the season. But the things you're claiming in the quote above is just completely wrong. Either you remember what suits you, or you have a very poor memory.

And they're back

I'm starting to dislike Barry Bannan because of Con.

have a feeling he'll be our next Petrov. In the sense that he struggled at the start but turned out to be a very valuable player for the club and the fans.

We need a proper defensive coach in the staff at Villa. Might just be possible in football manager though?

How many defensive cockups has Clark done as compared to Baker? Baker has had a few bad ones himself, only seem to get half the stick though.

I'm starting to realize that Con is nothing but a trolling project.

United cruising for the rest of the game. The goals were marginally offisde, can't blame the linesman in my opinion.

Good game.

So, this is going to be like the last 15minutes for 90 minutes.

The just said the ref was from the manchester area, lets hope he's a city fan.

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