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Varies state by state, but DC will temporarily supplement state-level unemployment by $600 per week. Sounds like a lot but bear in mind unemployment implies no health insurance etc.

As VT’s in-house economist, I declare that University of Bristol paper to be blathering nonsense. It’s by a physicist, and it shows. There’s an entire literature on the effects of recessions on life expectancy. You can’t assume a temporary shut down of 6.7% of the economy has the same (negative) effect on life expectancy as natural 6.7% growth It complete ignorance to assume they’re the same. Imagine someone assuming 4-4-2 is the same as 3-5-2 because both field eleven players. That’s what the physicist is doing.

Not quite the worst ever. Irish people can tell ya a thing or two about British governments’ inept response to public health crises, ‘cept a million people starved.

“Grenfell was nothing, I spend £70 on a good night out.”

We don’t need so many policemen because crime is so low.

HMG might be in a political storm when the ONS publish final mortality figures. The decision to only report hospital-related deaths may have been politically convenient two weeks ago, but will blow up when the figures come out all at once. For a sense of scale, a majority of the deaths in Ireland have occurred in nursing homes. There's no reason to believe that will perfectly replicated in the UK, but it is consistent with the "conspiracy theories" that the UK headline figures are under-counted by several thousand.

Egyptian journalist on Twitter. No idea how legitimate he is, but he’s got 60k followers. You’ll need to translate it but it says Newcastle have submitted a bid for Trez.

Bloody unelected bureaucrats.

Boris said he’d rather die in a ditch than extend Brexit past Oct 31. Boris is a bluffer. Always has been. Why would the EU start taking him seriously now?

More deaths this year means people taken 5/10/20 years before their time.

Lincoln assassinated, Titanic sinks, Nazis kill a thousand people in the Belfast Blitz, and the Boston Marathon bombing. Bad old day, this. Though I do hope Tom Heaton had a good birthday.

Fairly sure komp = kompromat, the quasi-military term for having dirt on a political rival. Putin allegedly taped Trump sleeping with escorts, i.e. the pee tape. Trump is friends with Ed Glazer, who owns a football club in Manchester. No idea what the sitcom stuff is about.

If you think Donald Trump is the man to improve the ethical standards and scientific rigour of the WHO, I have some very bad news for you.

Just on this, people are used to thinking linearly or multiplicatively. That's not the right way to think about exponential growth. For context, let's start with a base of ten. Ten to the power of 2.5 is 315. Ten to the power of 5.7 is over 500,000.

Yes, indeed there are differences across countries in population and also in age profiles and doctors per capita and hundreds of other things. It is an imperfect comparison so absolutely you need to adjust for the things but, as you say yourself, Scotland is also a good bit above Ireland’s rate. They can’t say they didn’t know what was happening in Italy. The consequences were discussed in depth here in this very thread. It was all completely predictable. And that higher death rate, the sadness inflicted on families all over, is partly because they let Cheltenham happen, because they hesitated to shut down schools, etc etc.

320 dead in Ireland. Scaling up for population that would be about 4,000 in the UK. So we’re not talking a difference of 10% or 20%, but something like 100%. Twice as many dead in the UK as there “should be”. Thousands dead. Thousands. Compare that to Grenfell which was, of course, an unthinkable outrage. I cannot believe people think HMG have handed this well. It’s beyond my understanding.

I’m not sure this is true. The Premier League, as a corporate entity, are its twenty members. I don’t think Everton and Man City really care that much about Villa versus Huddersfield fighting it out for seventeenth place. Care much more about 20 teams versus 22 imho. One thing that I see happening is the Conservative government passing legislation to give the PL immunity from torts about all this. That would mean Boris and co would pick whatever suits them the most.

Ah yeah, I would strongly disagree with @Vive_La_Villa but he’s not doing anything wrong. Think people were being dismissive to him personally rather than debating the posts. It’s a football discussion forum. Not unreasonable for someone to think society has lost respect for the cops.

Agreed. IMHO you’re getting a hard time from posters.

At the same time as our defending being awful, if we eliminate a few individual errors here and there (Engels against Spurs and Mings against Arsenal spring to mind) then we’re no longer in the bottom three. Puts it in perspective. We don’t actually need to be much better to see improvements in the table. Nearly there.

Wasn’t it 854 today?

Some research now finding that mortality is higher in regions where air pollution is higher (eg Northern Italy). Still a correlation rather than a causal relationship, but intuitive if it’s all about healthy lungs.

Is that one of the new symptoms? Hadn’t heard that... have you got a link?

Blast from the past. Went on to play for Ipswich, in the MLS, and a stint with a club in Norway. And he claimed AC Milan were in for him. Waster.

Much of this thread is the same dozen or so posters (me included) complaining that Joe Public wasn’t taking it seriously!