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The promised, proposed, and refused second debate was to be on arms and logistics support for the continuing Israeli assault on Gaza. I guess it could be awks again for those Labour and Tory MP’s that don’t want to look like they are facilitating murder, but also don’t want to stop facilitating murder.

Yeah, there isn’t a magic number, it’s not a ‘majority’ thing. The speaker has to decide if they have the confidence of the house, would a change of speaker improve the situation.. I guess it’s another of these things based on the honour principle. Westminster being seen to be run for the benefit of the two main parties in Westminster is probably as good an outcome as the SNP could have hoped for.

There isn’t a magic number, there isn’t a codified process to get rid of the speaker.

When the speaker in the House of Commons apologised for bending the rules for labour, he suggested he could grant the SNP an additional emergency debate. They have now requested this debate, and he’s told them it wouldn’t be within the rules, so no. Another 9 MPs have signed the motion of no confidence in Hoyle, bringing the total to 80.

How many people in ‘77 could have dreamt of owning a Range Rover, or a telephone? There is a very different attitude to credit now, and more people thinking they have more disposable income. So the relatively limited supply means greater competition and higher prices. I guess, as my theory.

Other than sambuca tasting like a diabetic Italian’s piss, nothing.

I was going to put something similar over the weekend, but its easily read as begrudging the special status of being able to claim anti semitism. I do believe there is a good chance in the current climate an MP claiming the Jews have control of London would result in a house call from plod.

It does look like Anderson is currently attempting to force a transfer. Doubling down on his refusal to apologise, which leaves sunak with two options, accept it or kick him out of the party. Surely not even Sunak could just accept it? But then would attention turn to Braverman? Rishi don’t need this shit, he’s got the in laws business interests to look out for.

It’s the Milk Tray man, but he only delivers white chocolates.

Even asthmatic delivery drivers are issuing records these days. Must get my shit together.

70’s elf and safety: those were the best days, the Spring re opening of the fairground and the re commissioning of the bigger roller coaster type rides. They’d let us local kids on for free whilst they were giving them shake down test runs for a few days.

He was probably googling H&M

What have you misread that makes you think I wish Gaza to be the singular most important cause? I have regularly moaned about the slow reluctant drip of aid to Ukraine. I would give neither side in Palestine any military assistance of any kind, I would encourage and celebrate a Ukraine ‘win’. For clarity, my most important ‘political’ cause, if you need to rank them in some linear order, is neither. It’s sacking off the bin fire of Westminster, but this isn’t really the forum for that. But it’s not a linear ‘to do’ list, you can pursue more than one interest at any one time.

Well, the media were creaming themselves over their Man Utd being on the rise and actually winning a few games on the trot. I look forward to them going back to just concentrating on the top 4 now.

I just hope nobody starts sniggling at Anderson, it upsets him.

I like that its already in a bin bag.

Rant in coming: Who are these shady champions of Gaza? Does that include me because I went on one of these hate marches? Look at your words in your second para and switch sides on the claims, would that look a little bit, off? Let’s look at a counter claim: Starmer said he introduced his wrecking amendment that caused the Westminster farce after having spoken directly to the Israeli President. Can you imagine the state of the media if Corbyn had done similar, having spoken to politicians from the West Bank? Labour, claiming to be doing the right thing for international diplomacy and statesmanship, bollocks. Don’t lose the votes, don’t lose the MP’s, don’t lose the tory biased media, don’t lose the money. Can you imagine the reaction to the SNP introducing a wrecking amendment on Ukraine, after having spoken to Russian politicians? All in a debate that had about as much real influence as one of these hate marches, or a sixth form cake bake. That we can even call the regime in Israel a western democracy is to me, just bizarre. It’s no more a western democracy than South Africa is, or was. Poor plucky Israel, no foreign money for protestors, influence, positive spin media coverage, bombs and tanks for them. There is no point in the whataboutism of other conflicts. I know we all do it at times, I do. That we are less interested in Sudan or Myanmar is our problem, not the problem of executed medical staff, the kidnapped, or refugees murdered in their tents, or murdered families with makeshift white flags. The IDF, the Israeli government, Hamas, Iran, they can all go **** themselves. They’ve killed tens of thousands of civilians between them, we should be hunting them all down, or treating them all with the same disdain and only talking to them whilst holding our collective western democratic noses. Every time I try to give examples on both teams, for balance, I’m conscious my examples against Israel are more numerous. But then, they’ve been at this ethnic cleansing for 5 months now. I guess even with the demonstrable threat to journalists lives, there are bound to be more examples to quote. What’s the end game? What happens when eventually Israel get to a quantity of blood they are content with. Will there never be another rocket fired again? What if there is another rocket? Will that mean Israel lost? Will it mean Israel then need to kill another 30,000? It’s the politics of a bully with a bloody nose, wounded and shamed in to being an even worse bully with no idea how to end the spiral.

Yep, same here. Luckily, I don’t ‘need’ to drink when I’m out so that one pint would only be if I really fancied it and felt like I’d be fine after it. I did recently have a half pint, but I won’t do that again it wasn’t one thing or the other. Not enough drink to last a whole fish n chips and made my hand look huge!

Soft Hearted Scientists one hundred and eleven minutes of swirling 60’s style psych from a band that met on the message board in Spillers, Cardiff with 16 page lyric book!

Sock. I now have both Socks. In the spirit of the concert / gig thread: vinyl album £14, gig £5.

I see that Israel are threatening to pull out of Eurovision if they aren’t allowed an exception to sing a political song. I see that lots of people are suggesting Israel shouldn’t be in Eurovision due to the on going ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Strikes me there’s an obvious happy solution for both teams.

It was on my buy list, but for some reason it’s £29, I can’t be doing that.

Question for Mr @Seat68 , what d’ya think of Hurray for the Riff Raff, if you’ve even heard of them? I might be barking up the wrong tree but I just thought they might be your ting?