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£15M is a huge gamble for a player who has never really played at a high level though.

very true.

FM just uses fans to supply ratings don't they? Sure I've seen posts on FM forums looking for people.

Nzonzi to Sevilla and Begovic to Chelsea this season

Why does there seem to be such a intellectual superiroty complex with those who rate Westwood highly? It is possible that those who don't particualry rate him do understand his role and aren't that simple that they just don't understand what he does, which seems to be suggested time and time again, maybe it's just felt he doesn't offer enough? Personally I think he's a pretty solid player who seems to be both massively over and under rated by different sets of people, but the constant remarks that those who don't rate him do so because he isn't smashing in goals and assists every week seems massively patronising to me.

Or Pedro by all accounts, maybe we should put in a cheeky bid for him

Would rather have a £30M player for a season though than not at all.

Very, very unfair. Funny how somebody who offers so little and is so crap has played so many games for us over the past few years and still appears to be a first choice midfielder, despite all our midfield signings this summer. Unless I'm forgetting someone, we've lost two first choice midfielders and signed two midfielders, he's hardly had to bat away swarms of competition for his place.

Only £16m?! That's a shed-load for a player they were already taking a gamble on and he showed nothing in terms of ability or even effort to even try and repay that faith in their gamble. Benteke had a poor run of form after a bad injury, Balotelli has had a huge run of bad form because of the amount of effort he puts in. He's quite simply a waste of potential. He only had a half decent record at City because they created so many chances. I'd rather have Borini to be honest! (I don't want Borini, just demonstrating how shocking Mario has become). His career was on a massive slide and a club as big as Liverpool gave him a final chance to show he still had somethingbut he just simply doesn't care. He'd get the ball, lose it easily and show zero lack of desire to rectify this, he'd stand there with his hands on his hips instead of closing down. That's nothing to do with feeling loved or an arm around his shoulder, that's straight up laziness and other players having to carry him. I'm sorry but what a complete load of bollocks these two statements are. He is obviously a very talented player and he showed that at City, the goals weren't just placed at his feet as you seem to be suggesting. Also he scored 26 goals in 43 appearances for Milan, hardly a career on a massive slide. Yes he has a bad attitude that is clear to see but there is no reason why he won't be able to do it again at another club, like he has at every other club he's been at aside from Liverpool. Rogers needs to take a fair portion of the blame for not finding a way to utilise him IMO; it seems strikers either fit in with his strategy and are excellent like Suarez and Sturridge or they don't and they are completely ineffectual like Lambert and Balotelli.

Gradel has has always struck me as a massive head-down-run merchant, admittedly seen very little of him though and that's a very impressive goal tally.

How do you know that? A number of sources claim talks are still on-going. Edit: Completey missed the misspelling. Very good

I see this name mentioned a lot. Any substance to it? Or just because he plays in France? Seems a bit short (5 foot 11) for a centre back? Guessing it's just because he plays in France, haven't seen any links myself.

Tbh i'd say every single one of those is extremely unlikely to want to come here.

You can't read anything into pre season games. Even a 'strong' team can just cruise through a pre season game at 70%.Arsenal tore Man City a new one in the community shield last season. They didn't beat them in the league and finished below them. Pre season is a warm up for the real thing, some teams tend not to go all out. Mentioned more because it was humorous. I know, unfortunately, they wont be this poor in the league.

Already laying the ground work to say they made him the player he is, deluded pricks.

Benzema's proved he can cut it with the best in the world at the very top level. Benteke still has a way to go and until he's in that kind of category.

2-2 I reckon, can see us scoring but our defence looks shocking. Wouldn't surprise if Wilson bagged one or two for them.

Probably a good thing we have looked so poor at the back, will really hammer home how much we need a quality CB although I'm sure they've been aware from the outset.

That's pretty much the opposite of what his job is... His job is to be a gibbering moron? That's definitely what I said. Well yeah, the opposite of not shutting up is pretty much that. Well done for realising.

That's pretty much the opposite of what his job is... His job is to be a gibbering moron?

Currently losing 4-0 to Stuttgart, extremely strong team as well.

Sounds like hes had an excellent game today, obviously has quality but can be frustratingly inconsistent which had to be expected after sitting on City's bench for god knows how long. Let's hope he takes confidence from today into the Bournemouth game.

He certainly does look to have the qualities to be a winger but I see no reason why he shouldn't just stay an attacking fullback, as from his stats and ratings last year is also a very talented defender.

Looks like we've finally found a quality LB, i'd quite like us to leave him there please.

£6 for a game is scandalous