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*Unnamed Source in Scaremongering Shock*

Shame to see that again the pitch seems to be appallingly bad and could see us being docked points. not what we need when we could still be fighting relegation at the end of the season.

I stole Martin Carruther's lager in a club once. And those of his mates.

John Malkovich got angry with me once. I gave him some water after.

I once drank champagne with Ugo Ehiogu in a Birmingham night-club.

I was on a treatment table next to George Berry. He asked my what position I played in and when I said right-wig he said, "All wingers are a bit poofy".

Excellent taste sir. Pray tell, which Fiorentina ones do you have? Just the one from circa 00-01. Sponsored by Toyota. It really is the dog's.

Kate Moss once flirted with me on a flight back to Gatwick.

Her hand in marriage? What's wrong with the rest of her?

Used to collect them a few years back but not somuch now - amongst my plethora of Villa shirts are; Fiorentina Espanyol Aberdeen away Marseilles South Africa Jordan Oman Thailand China Pristina

Its okay, I'm not 12.

Levi Bellfield made me a cup of tea a couple of years ago.

Really. Sorry my friend but trying to grow your hair long thus attempting to look cool doesn't work when the said colour is ginger. saying that, I do tend to find female ginners very sexy.

To be honest i pay little attention to any youngsters at the club whatever their reputation. As has been said they're too young for us to know whether they are going to make it or not. Even if they break into the first-team it means very little - see Comyn A; Fenton G; Moore S etc etc Hopefully for us there are some good 'uns that come through but until they do let's leave them and the coaches to get the best out of what we/they have.

To be fair its easier in today's cosmopolitan world where individual socities have more outside influences - whether directly on the streets or through a mass media that exposes us to a lot more people, and nationalties than ever before. Our parents generation, and that of first and Secdond generation immigrants is still looking backwards towards the culture they left and still hold firm. usually in the example of pakistanis its an 1950s/60s rural village life. but the further away that gets from their off springs reality the more the will become more accustomed to our way of life, and our values. In the 1970s/80s the West indian culture was rife through Black britons and their older family. cricket games would see those born here still supporting their parents countries. In a generation or two the same will be said of indians/pakistanis and any other ethnie that is born and raised here.

Its exhausting just trying to recall all of it. I didn't go into detail about my feelings on the issue because it would only serve to fire up my mom and that wouldn't be a good idea. Just leave it with me simmering away until its well and truly in the past. My wife has moved on with it so its pointless me feeling bitter still. My wife could empathise with my wife to a degree because her dad was an old styled Irish catholic. The only person good enough was another irish catholic and at the very least a catholic. So for my mom to bring home my proddy dad was a big no-no. My nan, his wife, had to lie and say that my dad was Catholic before he was happy for them to 'Court'. not quite the same I know but there was a smidgeon of understanding for my wife's position.

I see that both Osama and his son were killed. Is this the first time the bins have been taken out on a bank holiday Monday?

Racist yes but not against white people. The issue with me was that I was not a Muslim first and foremost. Now, if she had brought home a black man that would have been totally different. That is where the racism really is.

Waterloo **** Road. The missus loves it but it's just shit. It's Grange Hill with an adult viewing time slot. Can't be arsed to waste any more time talking about the shit programme.

Thing is for her mom it was the religion thing buy for he dad it was more to do with his standing in the community. He didn't want his daughter to make her own decisions when it came to an affaire de coeur. She had gone through the arranged marriage route but called that off only a week or two before the wedding because of over bearing sisters- in- law to be. They were asking things such as she take her hijab off in front of them so they could take a look. Sort of inspecting her. I met her at work and we worked together for a year or so before we got together. I knew she was attractive and we got on but I never thought anything more of it due to her religion and cultural background. When we did get together she told her mom about it something like 3 months in and we all met in a coffee shop in Wimbledon. Her mom asked me to stop seeing her daughter and I said no. As I said before at that point it would have been easy to- actually no, at that stage I wanted to see where it would go. As I said she had had her arranged thing and I had split from my fiancée roughly a year before we got together so it was nice to be with someone again. With regards to the converting thing it really wasn't too difficult because- and my apologies to any Muslims on here - the religion meant nothing to me. Out of the Abrahamic religions I do believe it's closer to the truth than the other two but still not what I believe in. All it meant to me is that my wife would be able to see her family again. False as deck but they were a very close family- and are again now they call each other 2 or 3 times a day minimum. My wife was prepared to give up a lot for me before we knew where the relationship was going so converting was the least I could do for her. Don't forget her marriage idyll wasn't wearing White in a church or a beautiful civil ceremony but to wear traditional Pakistani garb in a Nikkah ceremony. I wouldn't to deny her that whatever I felt. The concession to me was that we got married on May 26th. For obvious reasons...Nothing has changed in terms of me eating pork- although that's very seldom nowadays- drinking (she does very occasionally), or anything associated with not being a Muslim. The other thing is that she insists on my son Being Muslim and being brought up as one. Whatever that means. Probably further battles ahead on that one but after what we've gone through to get to where we are now that's not something I want to bring up just now.

My wife is of Pakistani heritage and if you are thinking of a long- term relationship it can be fraught with difficulties. To compound the issue my wife was a hijab wearer when I first met her. When we started seeing enjoying she took it off when we met up. I remember when she first met me without it on and she felt extremely vulnerable as she had worn it since she was about 12. The decision to wear it was her own and ironically enough she came in for family criticism as her mom and sister didn't cover even though now they do. She had received emails at work telling her to stop what she was doing and if she didn't then the person would tell her dad. They must have known the family, or know of them as the person warned that the news could kill her father due to his heart problems. Then one day she got a call from her dad when she was with me in Birmingham and he was sobbing on the other end of the phone wanting to know if it were true- what he was being told in the letter. She had to come clean so she was also now standing there in tears. Things were very tough as her friends had started to desert her and her family were making her choose between me and them. I had to go to their house on one occasion when her dad was telling her to stop seeing me and she could move back in and marry a Muslim boy. She wasn't living with me at this stage but at a friends. Whilst her dad was saying this, whilst calling me Satan her mom was reciting passages from the Quran I to her ear whilst her brother was criticising her for what she was putting her dad through especially as he had a heart problem and was taking medication. The pressure she was being put under was immense. Basically she was told she oils never return to the house or see her family again if she continued to see me. I was invisible. Anything that I tried to say was dismissed or simply ignored. I felt like a voyeur. On a purely selfish point it also put pressure on me to continue with a relationship for her sake and for what she was giving up. It did affect me and I wasn't the best boyfriend. I never cheated but generally came and went as I pleased. It just wasn't right for either of us. Looking back I think I was trying to keep my own space in the relationship in case it didn't work out and it was a well placed exit strategy. As luck would have it she got a job overseas and I went with her. Her family and friends not talking to her and me hedging my bets with the relationship. Looking back she could have ended it as easily as I could but something other than guilt was keeping us together and we both knew it deep down. Her family thawed but not her dad. Not until we got married and I converted to I slam for the Nikkah ceremony. My wife knows I'm not a Muslim but it was the least I could do for her after what she had gone through and was still going through. It was a very small price. We came home in September 2008 (we got married May 26th 2007) and her dad died in October 2008. But at least all bridges had been rebuilt and repaired by then. Two months later and my wife got pregnant and we now have a beautiful little boy. Don't worry this isn't going all Simon Bates and 'Jungle Brothers' by the Jungle Brothers wasn't the only tune that somehow got us through this testing time. The point being that I fancy the arse off most tanned skinned ladies- sub continent, South European, or whatever- and I'm not sure if she would go through it all again if my wife could turn the clock back the trauma and pressure was too much. Still, worked out for us. If you're looking for just a shag then game on. Anymore and be careful of the minefield that could be waiting for you. And to think this is just the abridged version.

Well obviously I misjudged the intended tone of the post then. Although I still don't agree with you apologies for my mistake.

Pathetic? Someone talks about giving a slap to some dusky type and it's my choice of words that raise an eyebrow? Really? I'm genuinely staggered. The Sun reader reference was implying that in times of conflict they resort to the lowest base of nationalistic and jingoistic fervour and that was what I was seeing in the post I was replying to.

uuuuuuuuucking hell. What was that?

I wouldn't say NATO shows a lack of anything militarily from Europe as we do not have a unified armed force to deal with anything that needs multilateral engagement. Nor should we. The fact that this is a European led effort is to the credit of Europe that they can agree on something, finalise a unified position and act upon it quite quickly. I don't agree with the involvement in Libya but can acknowledge that at least. With regards to numbers than that is nothing more than scare mongering guesstimates. Most fleeing Libya will go to neighbouring African countries simply because it's close to the homes they want to return to. Yes, you will find those coming to Europe but it won't be int the high hundreds of thousands which I think you were eventually pointing towards. As for Schengen then that is a different story. I doubt many that get to Italy have visas so it is a moot point regarding their onward movement thereafter. It's the Dublin Convention that the Italians seem to be contravening. Once an asylum claim is registered in one European country then it is that country that decides on the claim. I agree that Schengen in principle middies the water and what needs to be looked at is the ID cards used for travel. Without them then the individual must stay put and it needs to be an EU ID. So rather than try and reform Schengen , which will be difficult, the EU needs to determine how those countries within the agreement can disseminate refugees equally. As it stands Germany already takes more than any other European country- including the UK- so the Italians will have to bear the brunt as it is. The Northern European countries have seen the economic turmoils in the South and will not support any further concessions to weak economies by taking a high Percentage of refugees. It's a difficult one. As is what to do now we've shown ourselves to be the chancers we are in Libya. But as this plays out a jingoistic mentality of giving someone a slap is as childish as it is colonial history wishful thinking. The worlds grown up since the 19th century so should our world view point and attitudes.