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That's still ignoring the fact he probably doesn't want to come and has been asked more than once to do so, I think he was approached/interviewed when we got Garde IIRC, and I'm pretty sure a few appointments before that too. I'd like it to happen, don't get me wrong, I'd like him to come here and be properly backed and build a good squad and turn things around. I just can't see it though, since his Preston days he's always wanted to get to the very top and managing us in the Championship with an owner intent on selling and no massive investment around the corner is not a step on the way to the top. I agree we are a sleeping (well drugged and battered into a coma) giant with huge potential. We are not set up to achieve it any time soon though. As for Garde, he was shafted by circumstance and the men who hired him were got rid of before he was. he will have a great career I'm sure and it was a missed opportunity for the club in January by not backing him. The new manager, working with Lerner is going to have a tough job IMO too. Moyes will know this.

Exactly, £200m for a Championship club that is a total clusterfudge and hasn't played good football, or even just winning football for a long time. Or £110m for a club that has established a good footballing philosophy over the course of years and brought it's project to fruition by cementing it's premier league status just in time for the megabucks to arrive from the new TV deal. Lauded for their playing style or laughed at for being omnishambolic for twice the price a league below. Swansea are massively more attractive than us at the moment.

It's probably not the fans that worry him, it's the fact we'll be in the Championship and that our chairman couldn't give a monkeys, won't invest and wants to sell the club. No point getting angry with this new football board for not appointing Moyes, I strongly doubt he has any intention of coming in our current plight.

Beat me to it

What makes you think they haven't sounded him out and he's said "No thanks, I don't want to go to a club that's for sale and in teh Championship with a 6 year run of asset stripping and under funding and a toxic atmosphere, I'd prefer to go to a top 6 side and try and win something in Europe. Thanks for asking though." Not sure why you think Moyes is so gettable in our current situation.

Personally I don't think how football has changed with the money involved has any bearing on Little's ability to judge a manager. TWENTY (wow so long) years ago people were saying how much money has changed the game and how it's a different era, when clough splashed the cash for Forest people thought the same thing. It's nothing new. What has changed the game is the no back pass to the keeper rule, changes to the offside, 3 points for a win What makes a good coach, and the elements of building a good competitive side have not altered dramatically in TWENTY years, the techniques they use has, the technology they use has. These are technical issues though and are to do with method, as is how you treat a 19 year old multi millionaire as opposed to in the 80s a YTS lad coming through. These are real changes, but if you ask me, take any great manager from the 90s and he would still know how to build a side and what it takes to build a side today.

Well, the new TV deal wasn't a surprise was it? If he genuinely understood that the only way to recoup his cash was to be in the premier league then he could have properly backed Lambert, or Sherwood, or Garde. None of this happened. What makes you think he will realise this now when it is harder to acheive and requires more sustained investment to make it work? I agree that getting Moyes and backing him is one of the best potential solutions. I just don't think that 1. Lerner is going to want to invest and take the risk of not getting promoted having spent a lot of money, seeing as he didn't want to spend in order to ot get us relegated. or 2. That in that situation we will be able to tempt Moyes to come and save us.

Do we really think Moyes would want to manage in the Championship though? I could maybe understand it a bit if we had a new owner and the promise of big investment, in our current situation though why would he want to come? I'd probably quite like him to be named manager really, I'm not 100% convinced he coudl sort this mess out, but the sticking point here is more why would he want to come?

Yep, it's totally not necessary for a coach to have played at the highest level. Ferguson didn't, Wenger didn't, Mourinho never got close, Sacchi only played non league I think. I'm sure the list goes on, but between them 4 there's a hell of a lot of silverware and more than one genius (not Mourinho imho). I wouldn't sniff at Hodgson, but I strongly doubt whether he would consider coming to us in the Championship he is doing a very good job in one of the hardest jobs in world football. Mick would be a disappointment for me, I think he seems a decent bloke but we need to be looking elsewhere. Pearson needs a shot at redemption if he is going to have a decent career at the top level, we would be an ideal vehicle but he doesn't convince me totally. Nobody does though really, not even Moyes, as MON's replacement, or after Houllier he would have been perfect. Not so sure now. It's a massive appointment this one after a string of failures (albeit Remi in my eyes never got a fair crack of the whip).

Indeed. The protests need to be aiming squarely at Lerner and the top echelons of the club. The symbol idea is great, if you can distil things down that far and it still make sense who it's targeting and what it's about. Perhaps best to continue with a written message, but make it consistent and incorporate the symbol, then after a couple of weeks dropping the text then perhaps would mean the symbol carries the message of previous weeks with it.

sweet will chip you a few of the old Italian euros, not many, but I'm hoping every little helps!

have you got any crowdfunding set up yet?

Good finish, but that just highlights how much they have been taking the piss all season. That level should be the level for 90 minutes, not 10 every other week. Totally frustrating to watch, our ability to give the ball away is astounding and the organisation and awareness when we don't have it is poor. We need some very serious surgery this summer, and we need to some magical manager out of the hat to do it. Someone needs to put a marker down as the low point and turn this shit around and never look back. Who to hire to be that someone is the massive issue at the moment. As it stands the level of performance as a squad was nowhere near what will be required to get promoted.

True, that's as unlikely as the winning five on the bounce though. Still I spose we're lacking the last official nail in the bollocks. Happy days.

Surely we are mathematially down now as it stands? Best we can do is win 5 on the spin for 15 points, putting us on 31. We have a goal difference of -41 and Norwich have a goal difference of -22. Even if they don't get another point we can't beat them. There are only 2 teams we can finish above surely? Welcome to the Championship, surely Dowie is a wind up?

The ease with which we surrender possession is astonishing

Come on lads, win here and we're only 12 points off safety if Norwich draw! * cries *

That first Lambert season was the last time he showed form, the Weimann, Benteke and Gabby forward line was what saved us. That was the last time we played (for more than one game in a row) with some proper attacking intent. Such a shame that Lambert went into his shell, though I understand why, but from there on in if you weren't a Benteke who can do things on his own up front and still score then it was always going to be tough being a striker playing for us. The little run at the end of last season aside, but even then we weren't exactly playing lots of stuff in the channels for a forward to play off the shoulder. Basically it's 3 years since we've been set up to get the best out of Gabby, and his record shows it. I can se why he has lost interest although seeing as he is living his dream and being paid massively to do so, it's pretty inexcusable if he doesn't really give a toss. Another sad situation in a massive clusterfudge of sad situations wrapped in a melancholy claret and blue fart.

That's pretty mental. @Richard I like the reasoning for Rowett, much like the reasons I got behind Lambert (apart from the Villa connection). Sounds a bit too good to be true though I'd love it to be one of our own to come in and sort us out, have a long term plan and stick around to do it. How realistic that is I'm not so sure. At the end of the day a good technical competent modern coach with a clear vision of how to play and the ability to get his players to implement it, is all I want. I don't care where they are from.

colin rocket polisher?

??? do tell.

Don't forget the crumpet I'd be on board for Warburton, I'm still bemused as to why the next manager has to be British though, is that a board consensus thing or just something one of them said?

Top 6 of which league? Doesn't look like they had anyone lined up when they got shot of Remi does it?

...and actively cutting the contributions to that purse made by his rich mates. Whilst not collecting the corporate tax owed which would mean less pressure on the NHS and teh schools in the first place, and proposing a wholesale gift of state assets to his rich mates who run companies that handle academies. Great stuff all round really can't think why anyone would think he's a word removed.

They would have to luck out on a massive scale and go against the wishes of the majority on here (and the wider fanbase if the views on here can be seen as representative) by appointing a young and promising lower league manager. I'm not entirely sure they will want to gamble, and I'm not entirely sure they could possibly be that lucky.