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And when we got relegated the last time, it looked very bleak too.

Almost on a par with Ellis in 87, although Ellis started from a title winning and european cup and supercup winning squad. Which Randy didn't. To get to Ellis levels Randy would then have to miss out on a chance to push on from finishing second in the league and misunderstand what the new premier league would bring. Then refuse to capitalise on both Brian Little and John Gregory's good work by not investing more when we had a top 4 squad to at least keep us there. So not yet as bad as Ellis, but you know the start is similar, just Randy is a bit slower in getting us relegated from a worse starting point.

Yeah, that's it in a nutshell really, Bernstein and King have clearly put everything in the last few weeks to putting a plan to save the club together, whether that included sounding out managers and the requirements these managers would want we don't know, they did have a plan though which involved "radical" change and was "fundamental" to the revival of the club. Now it would seem that RL, or Hollis acting on instruction from RL knowing the budgets available or how RL saw the remit of the football board, disagreed with core elements of this plan and King and Bernstein told him to stick it then if he didn't want to listen their position was untenable, I don't see how Riley would be a sticking point in all this, for me it's about resources, King ran the **** bank of england FFS I'm pretty sure the plans were well costed and I'm pretty sure Bernstein would know what kind of investment was necessary. They probably had an acceptable minimum in mind to acheive the goal of promotion in 1/2 years and the actual funds on the table from RL it seems were nowhere near.

Yeah I think the extensive negotiations thing is a side issue, clearly Bernstein and King wanted to do something they deemed fundamental to our revival and were not able to carry this out because other forces were at play. Right now we don't know who didn't want to go along with them or why,

I don't think it reads like that, I think it reads like he actually wanted to take some "radical" decisions and was not allowed to by either Hollis or Lerner.

Wow. So football board not having the power to do what it wants? Would be good to know how and why the new structure was undermined!

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5505676,00.html

and now on the beeb http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36076936 "David Bernstein and Mervyn King have resigned from the Aston Villa board with immediate effect."

Indeed, I'm hoping they've had a proper row over money and are pissed off and will be happy to let everyone know what it was all about to heap pressure on Lerner.

Will be money related, either to the appointment of a manager the football board have lined up and Lerner doesn't authorise the budgets they discussed. Or simply they have realised that Lerner's idea of a realistic budget to get back to the Premier League is another suicide and want no part of it. They've deffo fallen out with Lerner...

Soooo, fundamental issues with I'm guessing a certain Randy Lerner? Amid rumours and speculation that Moyes is interested and the board were waiting on budget news? Possibly an indication of bad budget news from Lerner?

wonder what the fundamental issues are? Budget for Moyes?

Yeah lots of links online confirm it, I actually think it's the deep trouble option.

Still no quotes from the man himself though, so does really have to be filed under speculation.

Yep I'd be surprised if he really is interested that's why I was after a quote, there's a danger that the story he is interested could end up being seen as a fact and then people will be pissed off with the club for not getting Moyes when in reality he didn't want the job. Quotes from him saying he'd love to come and sort us out would be very welcome!

Any quotes from Moyes declaring an interest yet?

Well that's that sorted! I am glad, who's the new fella?

That said, someone who remotely gives a shit about us not getting humiliated every week will be an improvement.

Without being fan owned or at least owned by a pretty large group of very interested individuals, it's the nature of the beast isn't it? Any owner is going ot be a billy big bollox rich clearing in the woods looking for something out of owning us. Getting the right billy big bollox who only gets shits and giggles watching his team play exciting football and winning things judging by the amount of total knob ends who own clubs seems to be near impossible.

Just imagine if that line up wins! We can still stay up with a short little winning run of 5 games, away at old trafford to start the run would give us confidence! *takes another hit off the crack pipe* *cries*

We'll agree to disagree about Garde's abilities but he alienated the first team squad by wanting them to 1. Work hard 2. Calling them out on being lazy and shit. Two things I agree with him about

Massive repeated anal damage for 90 minutes sending us down. HAPPY DAYS LERNER YOU word removed.

The where's randy, invisible man where's wally combo image in the other thread is gold.

Yep I think in the Championship he woudl be good just sat in front of the defence as an outlet for them who can keep the ball. We will be playing sides who give the ball away more than the teams we've been failing against in the prem, so having someone who can keep it is a good thing.