BOF Posted September 10, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2013 Thursday20:25 Thu 12th Sep NY Jets @ New England (Sky)Sunday13:00 Sun 15th Sep San Diego @ Philadelphia13:00 Sun 15th Sep Tennessee @ Houston13:00 Sun 15th Sep Cleveland @ Baltimore13:00 Sun 15th Sep Washington @ Green Bay13:00 Sun 15th Sep Minnesota @ Chicago (Sky)13:00 Sun 15th Sep Miami @ Indianapolis13:00 Sun 15th Sep Dallas @ Kansas City13:00 Sun 15th Sep Carolina @ Buffalo13:00 Sun 15th Sep St Louis @ Atlanta16:05 Sun 15th Sep New Orleans @ Tampa Bay16:05 Sun 15th Sep Detroit @ Arizona16:25 Sun 15th Sep Denver @ NY Giants (Sky)16:25 Sun 15th Sep Jacksonville @ Oakland20:30 Sun 15th Sep San Francisco @ SeattleMonday20:30 Mon 16th Sep Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Easy win this week Edit, win list: New England Philadelphia Houston Baltimore Green Bay Chicago Indianapolis Kansas City Carolina Atlanta New Orleans Detroit Denver Oakland San Francisco Cincinnati Edited September 10, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 10, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2013 Careful now. We're still not sure where this new Ravens team lies in the grand scheme of things. You might be setting yourself up for a fall (probably not though...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Careful now. We're still not sure where this new Ravens team lies in the grand scheme of things. You might be setting yourself up for a fall (probably not though...). True, but it's hard not to be confident when you are up against the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Hoping I have a half day on Monday morning so I can get hyped for the Seattle $(ers game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Careful now. We're still not sure where this new Ravens team lies in the grand scheme of things. You might be setting yourself up for a fall (probably not though...). We scored 27 points against you. I'm quietly confident that would be enough to win a fair few games during the course of the season. Plus, it's Old Weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Winners New England Philadelphia Houston Baltimore Green Bay Chicago Indianapolis Dallas Carolina Atlanta New Orleans Detroit NY GiantsOakland San FranciscoCincinnati **** it. Going to guy for Giants to win and trash talk the entire week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 10, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 10, 2013 **** it. Going to guy for Giants to win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 10, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 10, 2013 Composite power ratings and "expected" scorelines addedThursday20:25 Thu 12th Sep #29 NY Jets 12 @ 27 New England #9 (Sky)Sunday13:00 Sun 15th Sep #27 San Diego 27 @ 26 Philadelphia #2813:00 Sun 15th Sep #19 Tennessee 27 @ 27 Houston #2213:00 Sun 15th Sep #25 Cleveland 21 @ 27 Baltimore #1313:00 Sun 15th Sep #7 Washington 25 @ 23 Green Bay #1513:00 Sun 15th Sep #26 Minnesota 14 @ 34 Chicago #1t (Sky)13:00 Sun 15th Sep #23 Miami 16 @ 20 Indianapolis #2113:00 Sun 15th Sep #12 Dallas 15 @ 22 Kansas City #1013:00 Sun 15th Sep #5 Carolina 26 @ 20 Buffalo #1113:00 Sun 15th Sep #20 St Louis 20 @ 22 Atlanta #1716:05 Sun 15th Sep #16 New Orleans 34 @ 25 Tampa Bay #3216:05 Sun 15th Sep #3 Detroit 25 @ 19 Arizona #1416:25 Sun 15th Sep #6 Denver 34 @ 23 NY Giants #18 (Sky)16:25 Sun 15th Sep #30 Jacksonville 22 @ 22 Oakland #3120:30 Sun 15th Sep #8 San Francisco 15 @ 27 Seattle #1t (Channel 4)Monday20:30 Mon 16th Sep #24 Pittsburgh 10 @ 23 Cincinnati #4 (British Eurosport 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 11, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2013 Road team clean sweep in the evening games I see. I can't see Jacksonville beating Oakland. The Raiders looked good last week and I'd expect them to blow out the Jagwaaaars. (sorry Brum&ME). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 11, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2013 20:25 Thu 12th Sep NY Jets @ New England (Sky) 13:00 Sun 15th Sep San Diego @ Philadelphia 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Tennessee @ Houston 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Cleveland @ Baltimore 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Washington @ Green Bay 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Minnesota @ Chicago (Sky) 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Miami @ Indianapolis 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Dallas @ Kansas City 13:00 Sun 15th Sep Carolina @ Buffalo 13:00 Sun 15th Sep St Louis @ Atlanta 16:05 Sun 15th Sep New Orleans @ Tampa Bay 16:05 Sun 15th Sep Detroit @ Arizona 16:25 Sun 15th Sep Denver @ NY Giants (Sky) 16:25 Sun 15th Sep Jacksonville @ Oakland 20:30 Sun 15th Sep San Francisco @ Seattle 20:30 Mon 16th Sep Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati Not confident with a few of those at this early point in the season. Mainly Cincinnati (I always expect Pitt to bounce back), Arizona, Carolina (The Bills were no mugs against the Pats). Even Tennessee at a strong Houston and, yes, even Denver at the always dangerous at home Giants mightn't be all plain sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 12, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2013 Patriots -11: risk 5 units to win 4.54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Brady's looked horrific through 2 games. They'll make the playoffs by default, but they're nowhere near genuine challengers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 What an ugly game that was. 2-0, but far from trophy-caliber stuff right now from the home team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 13, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2013 Brady's looked horrific through 2 games. They'll make the playoffs by default, but they're nowhere near genuine challengers IMO.Even the fastest sports car splutters and farts when it's started cold. You know as well as I do that the Pats haven't hit their stride yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Will New York Giants fake injuries to slow fast-paced Broncos offense? A shot of sports commentary each weekday near quittin' time By Benjamin HochmanThe Denver Post Posted: 09/12/2013 03:00:00 PM MDT | Updated: about 19 hours ago Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning (18) passed for seven touchdowns in the season opener against the Baltimore Ravens on Sept. 5. (Joe Amon, The Denver Post) Not since Barry Sanders have NFL teams had a harder time stopping B.S. Players are faking injuries to slow down fast-paced offenses — this alleged by both opposing players and even an owner — yet how do you police something you can't prove? That's one of the big storylines heading into Broncos-Giants on Sunday. After all, it was the Giants last weekend who Jerry Jones said were faking with the theatrics of Elaine Benes on that "Seinfeld" episode. "It was so obvious it was funny," the Cowboys owner told ESPNDallas.com. "It wasn't humorous because we really wanted the advantage, and knew we could get it if we could get the ball snapped." If you're a defensive player, you want to do everything you can to slow down an offensive attack. So why not slow it down by faking an injury? It's essentially impossible to prove if the guy is faking, even if, as was heard during the Philadelphia-Washington Monday night game, Eagles players screamed, "He's faking!" And as the old saying goes — and I hate the old saying — it's not cheating unless you get caught. So really, all one can hope is that karma nails these guys, because the league can't. Sure, there's the rule that you have to miss a play if you go down injured on a previous play. But let's say the NFL implements a rule that an injured player must sit out an entire series. Is that fair to the guy who actually did suffer a painful cramp but started to feel better after a couple minutes? Last season, the league did bust one dude for faking. Pittsburgh's Emmanuel Sanders was fined $15,000 and the Steelers were fined $35,000, according to NFL.com, which quoted a letter league executive Ray Anderson wrote to the Steelers: "Despite the account given by Sanders during a meeting, neither the video sequence of the pertinent plays nor the observations of the on-field official support Sanders' contention that he was in severe pain, either before, while falling to the ground, lying on the ground, or when he was being assisted in leaving the field. "Moreover, after missing the one play that is mandatory pursuant to the playing rules, and receiving no apparent treatment, Sanders returned to the game for a fourth down punt, on which he out sprinted all of his teammates 26 yards down the field, arriving at the ball ahead of all other Pittsburgh players, and then downing the ball." Some fans will say that faking an injury is just gamesmanship and a creative way to get an edge. No. Faking an injury is a bush league move that admits that you're weaker than your opponent. Flopping in basketball is also bush league — a defensive player figuring out a loophole to punish an offensive player who didn't do anything wrong — and this NFL faking is even worse than flopping. Offenses, notably our town's team and coach Chip Kelly's Eagles, thrive off speed and wearing down a defense. These teams accomplish this success due to hard work and dedication. All that work and creativity can be thwarted by a guy flailing on the ground? That's just unfair. "It will slow a team down real bad," Broncos wide receiver Demaryius Thomas said. "Especially if you're going fast. Slowing the tempo will get guys a rest and get the offense out of their groove." Indeed it's a hot topic this week because the accusations involved the Giants, the Broncos play the Giants and the Broncos play even faster than the Cowboys. Asked about all this, Denver coach John Fox said, "I think it's something that's been going on forever. I don't think there's a way to dictate that. I think it's hard for any official. They have tough jobs as it is with some of the enforcements. To be able to determine whether a guy is injured or not, I don't think that's their lane either. You just go about your business and deal with whatever you deal with during the game." Link NFL players diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 13, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2013 It's inevitable and tbh it's surprising it's not already widespread. It is to the NFL's credit as a sport that it can largely hold its head up high in this regard. I'd expect this from the Raiders but not the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 13, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2013 Why not, in the interest of player safety, bump up the required number of plays sat out? Even four plays would limit the gamesmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyPowers Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I watched most of last night's game and I'm so sick of Mike Mayock. He's from the school of commentary of not commentating on the game, just gushing about players, any player. If anyone makes a play, we get about half a minute of Mike Mayock saying how great they are, listing all of their qualities, ooo they were a steal in the draft, yadda, yadda, yadda. The embarrassing thing last night was that Geno Smith made a good throw early on when he got hit in the mouth. He spent most of the rest of the game saying how great he was, how promising he was, how exciting he was, this was way into the third quarter. Of course, Geno Smith hadn't made another good throw by then, he'd actually been atrocious and he finally shut up about how great he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted September 13, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2013 Nessler is ok though. But the Michaels-Collinsworth combo is the best atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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