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There are only four teams (in my opinion) who have a viable chance of winning the WC.

France

New Zealand

Ireland

South Africa

No other team currently comes close to those four, who on their day are all capable of beating each other.

I cannot say who is favourite, it’s too close to call

This will be down to who performs better in the final. 

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I bought tickets for the England QF ages ago but after not being bothered about actually going for most of that time (because England were so boring and I didn’t expect them to qualify), I now can’t make it. Cost around £185 so hoping to sell it, particularly as I’m still on the hook for my share of our accommodation!

I don’t suppose anyone on here is interested or knows anyone who might be?

Marseille, Sunday 15th October.

If not then I might have to go via a ticket reseller. Never used one before so hopefully it will be pretty simple. 

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One thing I’d say about this World Cup is that I don’t think they have made it easy for non rugby fans to get into. Yes the players need a break between games and I totally get that, but they could have done the schedule differently so there is a game if not every day, but most days. With the ways it’s been now, even when they have put the odd game on a different day it’s been easy to forget they are on (very poor advertising by ITV imo). If you are trying to grow the sport with a WC you need to keep people interested. 
 

As for the teams themselves, as we’ve all known the top half of the draw is so much better than the bottom. Look at the ruthlessness of some of the teams. NZ getting into their stride, France bar one game were excellent, SA Ireland and Scotland all going well and yet one could go out. And yet they still have to play each other in the quarters. 
England Wales in the other quarters have had it so much easier so far. 
 

 

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I’m not surprised Borthwick has gone for Ford Farrell, although I think it’s completely pointless. It nullifies the threat of Manu by putting him further out and it takes away Fords influence. 
Whilst May has done well in the past, think we are missing out not having Arundell there. Think that shows we are going back to kick chase. 
Shame for Jack Willis getting injured, he has no luck playing for England

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The Ford-Farrell combo just restricts our back play. 

England looking very stodgy despite having a week extra break and back to giving away daft penalties through ill discipline and poor handling.

we have to be one of the most frustrating teams to watch.
 

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Author of our own downfall here. Stupid mistakes. We had great momentum after the try, we’re pushing Samoa back and should score again. We get a penalty in the 22, and rather than going for the scrum or line out, we kick 3 points. The top sides, score 7 there and be ruthless. Ever since then we’ve been on the back foot making mistake after mistake, taking away all pressure from Samoa and then gifting them possession and field space. Very poor 

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2 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

Author of our own downfall here. Stupid mistakes. We had great momentum after the try, we’re pushing Samoa back and should score again. We get a penalty in the 22, and rather than going for the scrum or line out, we kick 3 points. The top sides, score 7 there and be ruthless. Ever since then we’ve been on the back foot making mistake after mistake, taking away all pressure from Samoa and then gifting them possession and field space. Very poor 

I wouldn’t mind if this was a scratch team for the final game of the round but it’s pretty much Borthwick’s preferred XV… utterly turgid

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27 minutes ago, theboyangel said:

I wouldn’t mind if this was a scratch team for the final game of the round but it’s pretty much Borthwick’s preferred XV… utterly turgid

Oh I agree, we should never have brought Farrell back in, we shouldn’t have moved Manu and Marchant. We should have kept pace in Arundell. But Borthwick has to go to Farrell and the boring tactics and it’s going to be his downfall. 

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Having Farrell at 12 undermines whoever plays at 10 and does them no favours with what he offers (or doesn’t) outside them.

Still a mystery to me what consecutive international coaches see that the general rugby-watching public doesn’t. 

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Just now, JB said:

Having Farrell at 12 undermines whoever plays at 10 and does them no favours with what he offers (or doesn’t) outside them.

Still a mystery to me what consecutive international coaches see that the general rugby-watching public doesn’t. 

Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s pressure from the RFU to play him at all costs. 
 

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7 minutes ago, JB said:

Having Farrell at 12 undermines whoever plays at 10 and does them no favours with what he offers (or doesn’t) outside them.

Still a mystery to me what consecutive international coaches see that the general rugby-watching public doesn’t. 

 

5 minutes ago, theboyangel said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s pressure from the RFU to play him at all costs. 
 

He’s clearly to a very talented player and a great leader. At times it has been right to play him. But he was out of the side because of his stupidness and rash tackling. Ford was flying at 10, Manu and Marchant doing well at centres. No need to shoehorn Farrell in. He has to earn his place back. 

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