BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 Do you choose your sexual orientation or is it genetic, in that you can't choose? The adoption thread has wandered onto this debate and opinion seems split as to what people think. Some think that your sexuality is a combination of personal choices, upbringing & environment and that it is not pre-determined. Others think you do not have a choice in whether you 'fancy girls or boys'. That it is genetic. What do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablopicasso Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 according to my two gay brothers, they have always found males atractive, even when younger... thanks to the general publics attitude, they attempted to suppress those thoughts as they thought it was wrong, and tried to have relationships with women... which obviously didnt work out in the long term and was very unfair on the women in question.. but eventually, they were finally honest with themselves and accepted their sexuality.... they say that they didnt "learn" to be gay... they just are... as its become more socially "accepted", more people are actually admitting their sexuality and being open about it.. both have said that given the choice, they would be hetrosexual, have a family and walk into the distance towards candyfloss grass and lollipop trees... but they dont have a choice, and as it happens, are as happy as they have ever been and not living a lie..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2007 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2007 I once asked a gay friend of mine, "When did you first realise you were gay?" He replied, "When did you first realise you were straight?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 according to my two gay brothers, they have always found males atractive, even when younger... but if it is genetic wouldn't that mean that you would have to have the same tendancies ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 according to my two gay brothers, they have always found males atractive, even when younger... but if it is genetic wouldn't that mean that you would have to have the same tendancies ?? No, in the same way that, for example, a sibling can get a gene from a parent and you mightn't get it. And your argument also implies that all siblings have the same hair colour, the same everything really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 according to my two gay brothers, they have always found males atractive, even when younger... but if it is genetic wouldn't that mean that you would have to have the same tendancies ?? No obviously not. My sister is a bit of a trog (sorry sis) yet I am an Adonis of a man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 You don't "learn" sexuality IMO. It's not like learning English. It "comes" from within, pardon the pun. You don't learn to be straight or gay - i think you're born with it. It's innate, IMHO. If you have to "learn" something like that, if it doesn't come from within, then maybe you're forcing yourself to feel something that's not there .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablopicasso Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 according to my two gay brothers, they have always found males atractive, even when younger... but if it is genetic wouldn't that mean that you would have to have the same tendancies ?? my brother has blonde hair, i dont... our genetics might come from the same parents, but they are obviously different in certain respects... eg, the blonde hair, different coloured eyes, me not being a gayer, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Being gay is a lifestyle choice, and a perfectly legitimate one at that. In my opinion you are not born gay. What worries me about the "born gay" argument is then we get into the messy and dangerous situation of genetics, eugenics and people looking for "cures". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 how can it be genetic, if any of your ancestors were gay you wouldn't exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 Not really RICO because a 'cure' suggests there's something wrong. IMO genetically it's just different in the same way that Pablo's brother is blonde and he's not. There's something different in the 'make-up' (pardon the pun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Being gay is a lifestyle choice, and a perfectly legitimate one at that. In my opinion you are not born gay. What worries me about the "born gay" argument is then we get into the messy and dangerous situation of genetics, eugenics and people looking for "cures". True,but the other side of the argument like certain religious groups think you can be "cured" from homosexuality. Its a puzzle I tell ya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 our genetics might come from the same parents, but they are obviously different in certain respects... but if your family has a histroy of cancer , heart attack etc , then you are at a higher risk of having these problems ..so if there is a gay genetic surely there must be a chance that gene is lurking somewhere in you and other fmaily members ...... unless of course there is no such gene , which I guess depends whcih side of the debate your on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 how can it be genetic, if any of your ancestors were gay you wouldn't exist I think this has been covered in the "my sisters a minger, I'm not post". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 how can it be genetic, if any of your ancestors were gay you wouldn't exist That's been answered. Two blondes can give birth to a brunette. Genetics isn't as simple as 'what went before shall be from now on'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Being gay is a lifestyle choice, and a perfectly legitimate one at that. In my opinion you are not born gay. What worries me about the "born gay" argument is then we get into the messy and dangerous situation of genetics, eugenics and people looking for "cures". a lifstyle choice based upon favouring the sexuality of males, Yes. Bit then in that respect, it's no choice at all. Should people with such feelings/tendencies be forced to "tow the line" of being hetero? I favour women, large/voluptous ones at that. It's not a choice though for me between being straight or gay. I have no homosexual tendencies, therfore there is no "choice". For me to become homosexual would require a degree of forced feelings/actions, which removesd the element of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 but if your family has a histroy of cancer , heart attack etc , then you are at a higher risk of having these problems ..so if there is a gay genetic surely there must be a chance that gene is lurking somewhere in you and other fmaily members ...... Exactly. Higher risk. And PP has just said that 2 of his brothers are, which is 67%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think this has been covered in the "my sisters a minger, I'm not post". no offence but if push comes to shove I think i'd rather sleep with your sister than you , though as it isn't genetic and down to choice , I , of course do have the rigt to change my mind on this , a few drinks , a nice meal and who knows what can happen :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 9, 2007 Author Moderator Share Posted February 9, 2007 I favour large/voluptous women Yeah so even within a sexuality there are variations of what you like. You are a 'feeder' and I like them kinda thin. Just kiddin' Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think this has been covered in the "my sisters a minger, I'm not post". no offence but if push comes to shove I think i'd rather sleep with your sister than you , though as it isn't genetic and down to choice , I , of course do have the rigt to change my mind on this , a few drinks , a nice meal and who knows what can happen :-) Your on, and you never know, a nice enough bottle of wine and I might put out! It worked for B23!! :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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