bickster Posted February 10, 2007 Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2007 What the f*** is a sin? I suspect shagging the family pet whilst someone tries to sell you double glazing qualifies. Ah I see, letting someone sell you double glazing - I agree that probably is a sin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 A lot of people with no espoused religious inclination getting het up over "sin", something with strong religious connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernVillain Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Isn't swearing a sin? What about praying to a saint, is that idolatory and also a sin? But really, who cares? I know plenty of gays, some cool, some tossers, same as anyone else, I just think that sometimes people want a flag to fight behind to make them feel special/different to the 'norm'. Just another yoghurt-knitter argument, if you're happy and not harming anyone, just get on with it and enjoy your life, regardless of sexuality/beliefs... (The above does not of course apply to the bluenose - may they burn in hell!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriffvilla Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Well I have read all this and on page 4 I said that I felt nothing would change my mind that it is not down to choice. Quite frankly, some of the points made arguing my beliefs have only managed to strengthen them. That's not a joke or a dig, that is a 100% factual statement. ObiWan Sheriff: Strike me down, you will only make me stronger. Man, I'm a geek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villab0y Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I think it comes down to who you find attractive. Choice or non choice who knows? I dont find Asian girls attractive, does that mean a chose that or not? That Steven Gately tho...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 10, 2007 Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2007 What the f*** is a sin? I suspect shagging the family pet whilst someone tries to sell you double glazing qualifies. "Heavy petting" I think that's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitey Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 What the f*** is a sin? The biggest sin is feeding poisened rodents to birds of prey, especially to red kites and barn owls. :nod: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I think the majority of human beings are born with the urge to reproduce, for them there realy is no choice. For others that urge simply isn't there, so they do have a choice. I think in their case who they are attracted to is a complicated mixture of social elemants. So the answer to the question is both. Although I think ultimately everyone has a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitey Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 The real question is why do people need an explanation for homosexuality? It's unimportant. Homosexuality isn't a disorder with a cause - it just happens naturally like developping certain skills or preferences. No one wants to know why someone fancies blondes or supports Villa. Knowing the source of homosexuality leads to judgement, it clearly influences people's attitude towards it. Many poeple would find it easier to accept homosexuals if it was proven that they have no choice. That worries me, it's disrespectful and intolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 14, 2007 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2007 The real question is why do people need an explanation for homosexuality? It's unimportant. Homosexuality isn't a disorder with a cause - it just happens naturally like developping certain skills or preferences. No one wants to know why someone fancies blondes or supports Villa. Knowing the source of homosexuality leads to judgement, it clearly influences people's attitude towards it. Many poeple would find it easier to accept homosexuals if it was proven that they have no choice. That worries me, it's disrespectful and intolerant. This is a very good point Kitey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 why do people need an explanation for homosexuality? some good points Kitey but The Bible has stood the test of time regardless of wheither or not people still believe , the UK is Still a Christian country and our constitution and laws are written around these Christian values .. The the bible is quite clear when it says along the lines of "thou shalt not covert thy neighbour , more so if he has a moustache and listens to the Pet Shop boys " . The bible says We are made in His image and likeness. Would any clergy be willing to call God a homosexual!? maybe thats why some people feel the need for an explanation ?? weirdly enough the book of Matthew says, "In the end times, men will want men, and women will want women" , so maybe we should all go out an borrow sums of money as it seems we may not have to pay it back in the long term :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 15, 2007 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2007 The real question is why do people need an explanation for homosexuality? It's unimportant. Homosexuality isn't a disorder with a cause - it just happens naturally like developping certain skills or preferences. No one wants to know why someone fancies blondes or supports Villa. Knowing the source of homosexuality leads to judgement, it clearly influences people's attitude towards it. Many poeple would find it easier to accept homosexuals if it was proven that they have no choice. That worries me, it's disrespectful and intolerant. Do you know any homosexuals who feel they have no choice? You might find the opposite is more the case. They are not suffering some terrible condition that needs to be cured, they have made a conscious choice. This choice is no different to the one we all make on who will be our partner. Are there urges? Certainly. But it is still a choice you make. Either you indulge or you abstain. As for it being more accepted if it was proven they had no choice - again, you might find it to be the opposite. It would prove they are suffering from something that the majority do not. That puts them as second class citizens in many people's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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