CVByrne Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Not a fan of Davies at all but he was excellent this morning. Problem is, he does his best work in space created by others, him at 12 and O'Driscoll at 13 may not be the best combination for midfield biffing, but I think we'll prob go with it now. Manu to come around 55 mins and wreak havoc. Warbo was always starting the first test, so it's good he had a decent game today. I'd start next Sat with... 15 - Halfpenny 14 - Zebo 13 - O'Driscoll 12 - Davies 11 - North 10 - Sexton 9 - Phillips 1 - Vunipola 2 - Hibbard 3 - Jones 4 - Gray 5 - AW Jones 6 - Tipuric 7 - Warbo © 8 - Falateu I'd actually start Croft and Tipuric myself, but Warbs will definitely play. What an amazing English biased pack ya got there. O'Connell will of course start. Heaslip probably too, O'Brien will pay for his versatility and be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Not a fan of Davies at all but he was excellent this morning. Problem is, he does his best work in space created by others, him at 12 and O'Driscoll at 13 may not be the best combination for midfield biffing, but I think we'll prob go with it now. Manu to come around 55 mins and wreak havoc. Warbo was always starting the first test, so it's good he had a decent game today. I'd start next Sat with... 15 - Halfpenny 14 - Zebo 13 - O'Driscoll 12 - Davies 11 - North 10 - Sexton 9 - Phillips 1 - Vunipola 2 - Hibbard 3 - Jones 4 - Gray 5 - AW Jones 6 - Tipuric 7 - Warbo © 8 - Falateu I'd actually start Croft and Tipuric myself, but Warbs will definitely play. What an amazing English biased pack ya got there. O'Connell will of course start. Heaslip probably too, O'Brien will pay for his versatility and be on the bench. You've done well to see the English bias there buddy. Only one English player in the XV. Oops. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 We're all Lions here, why bring up countries? But yeah, I'm guessing one Englishman is too many then? Don't know what it is about Heaslip, just don't trust him to be disciplined enough. I'd bring O'Connell on for a big push on 50-60 mins. He can't make it the full match and I'd rather have him on the pitch at the business end, Gray bring more athleticism to compliment Jones' rough stuff. Without O'Connell, I think Croft needs to start for some line out presence. Whichever of the flankers doesn't get on the pitch is very unlucky, they're all top top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 Not a fan of Davies at all but he was excellent this morning. Problem is, he does his best work in space created by others, him at 12 and O'Driscoll at 13 may not be the best combination for midfield biffing, but I think we'll prob go with it now. Manu to come around 55 mins and wreak havoc. Warbo was always starting the first test, so it's good he had a decent game today. I'd start next Sat with... 15 - Halfpenny 14 - Zebo 13 - O'Driscoll 12 - Davies 11 - North 10 - Sexton 9 - Phillips 1 - Vunipola 2 - Hibbard 3 - Jones 4 - Gray 5 - AW Jones 6 - Tipuric 7 - Warbo © 8 - Falateu I'd actually start Croft and Tipuric myself, but Warbs will definitely play. What an amazing English biased pack ya got there. O'Connell will of course start. Heaslip probably too, O'Brien will pay for his versatility and be on the bench. You've done well to see the English bias there buddy. Only one English player in the XV. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I think it'll be a smash 'em, bash 'em game plan until around 60 minutes then the big ball carriers like O'Brien/Manu/North will come on to exploit the space. I also think the Aussies will nick the first game but the Lions will sort it out and win the next two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villamark Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Think North is out of the first test, which is a massive loss. Glad Wade is coming out as he has so much speed. Not a huge fan of Barritt, surprised he got the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I understand why lots of people aren't massive fans of Barritt; he's not a 'Lions player' as such in that he doesn't do anything glamorous but his work and tackle rates are phenomenal and often go under-appreciated. I was surprised to hear he was on his way but I'm struggling to think of any other established centres who deserved the call more? I'm so **** excited about Saturday! I can't wait for kick off. I'm hoping the Aussies will be a bit rusty after 6 months without a test. I wouldn't be surprised by any result to be honest. Even without Cooper, that Aussie backline is awesome and will cause no doubt cause us a fair few problems. I wouldn't pick Cuthbert as I think his defensive shortcomings will be exposed. Really hoping that North and BOD are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm most worried about the rush defence. Not enough room for error and a side that has only been together for a few weeks will make a few errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villamark Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 My problem with Barritt is that he is not even British, the only reason he is playing for England is that he was not good enough for the South African side. I know people will say NZ do it and other countries but I just don't agree with it. It would be different if he grow up here, like Manu. I would of took Hook or Maddigan both offer much more going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think it'll be a smash 'em, bash 'em game plan until around 60 minutes then the big ball carriers like O'Brien/Manu/North will come on to exploit the space. I agree with this. We'll keep it tight and hit them for the 60 mins, let them give away penalties, every one they give inside their half is a nailed on 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Brumbies aren't messing about, are they? You can see the South African influence. No bullshit. Lions are in for a battle here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Poor. All about the tests though. I think Falateu was magnificent. Kearney may have just squeezed himself ahead of Hogg for a bench spot. I love Hogg, but if Halfpenny for injured after 10 mins, I know who's I'd want seeing out the match at fullback. Murray, Best, Barritt, Twelvetrees all have work to do to not be midweek players for the rest of the tour. Scott Quinnell doing his nut on Sky Edited June 18, 2013 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think we got our first good glimpse of how the Aussies will compete at the breakdown. Slow it down, frustrate and win the penalties. Fortunately they are missing their best back-row players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Poor. All about the tests though. I think Falateu was magnificent. Kearney may have just squeezed himself ahead of Hogg for a bench spot. I love Hogg, but if Halfpenny for injured after 10 mins, I know who's I'd want seeing out the match at fullback. Murray, Best, Barritt, Twelvetrees all have work to do to not be midweek players for the rest of the tour. Scott Quinnell doing his nut on Sky What's he saying? He was brilliant after the game on Saturday . Couldn't watch the game as I'm at work. Didn't sound great. How did Wade get on? Can't imagine he saw much of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villamark Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Did not see the game but it sounds like Best had a nightmare. I did think it was a little bit desperate to get Shane Williams to play at 36 after a year playing in Japan. how about Kearney to start with Halfpenny playing on the wing if North is not fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 My problem with Barritt is that he is not even British, the only reason he is playing for England is that he was not good enough for the South African side. I know people will say NZ do it and other countries but I just don't agree with it. It would be different if he grow up here, like Manu. I would of took Hook or Maddigan both offer much more going forward. you are TRS-T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 My problem with Barritt is that he is not even British, the only reason he is playing for England is that he was not good enough for the South African side. I know people will say NZ do it and other countries but I just don't agree with it. It would be different if he grow up here, like Manu. I would of took Hook or Maddigan both offer much more going forward. Bloody foreigners coming over here and getting in our teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Surprised to see corbs get the nod. Vanipulo must be gutted.. Guessing he will be used as an impact sub. Nice to see croft in, other than I'd imagine it's as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 With Manu unfit, there's not much I'd change. Zebo is unlucky/Maitland very lucky regards the bench. In fact I'd have started Zebo over Cuthbert. Can see why they've gone for Corbs over Mako. Phillips needs one of his good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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