leviramsey Posted October 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2013 That's not the irony. The irony is that they mahoosively benefitted from those playoffs becoming seeded as soon as Platini realised France were going to be in them. They hadn't been seeded until the week before the draw. And now that the playoffs are seeded, France are complaining that theirs is an unfair situation. Which it is, but it literally couldn't happen to a more deserving team As hard as it is to believe, this actually has nothing to do with Ireland I'm not sure that that's actually true, Bri. The 2006 playoffs were seeded on exactly the same basis, the FIFA World Rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 No, I think he is right. There was a huge song and dance about the playoffs not being seeded, then all of a sudden they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 That's not the irony. The irony is that they mahoosively benefitted from those playoffs becoming seeded as soon as Platini realised France were going to be in them. They hadn't been seeded until the week before the draw. And now that the playoffs are seeded, France are complaining that theirs is an unfair situation. Which it is, but it literally couldn't happen to a more deserving team As hard as it is to believe, this actually has nothing to do with Ireland I'm not sure that that's actually true, Bri. The 2006 playoffs were seeded on exactly the same basis, the FIFA World Rankings. It is true and I remember it vividly. Google can provide a plethora of articles to that end. Here is an ESPN article with direct quotes from Blatter saying "We have decided to seed the draw". Here's a blog from the period that makes reference too with the same comments from Blatter. That they've now made a rod for France's back is just toooo sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2013 Neither actually says that though.The ESPN article says "There had speculation that the eight best second-placed teams in Europe's nine groups would all be thrown into one pot."The blog entry (from two weeks later) then claims that it was a change, which has no basis in fact.Considering that* the previous round was seeded and drawn according to the World Rankings (with no mention made of it in the cited documents)* the previous instance of a UEFA playoff was seeded according to World RankingAbsent a specific statement from FIFA that it wasn't going to be seeded, the only reasonable expectation was that this time would be seeded.What most likely happened is: lazy (too lazy to wikipedia the 2006 draw) journo sees that France and Portugal could end up in the playoffs, sees nothing in the documents regarding seeding, writes article musing about a France-Portugal playoff. Thus is born an urban legend.In any event, the claim that they hadn't been seeded until a week before the draw is demonstrably false. The Blatter quotes (which do not in any real way support your claim) are in the ESPN article dated 29 September, three weeks before the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2013 The 2010 playoffs were as likely to have not been seeded as Man Utd were likely to sign Ronaldo this past window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 You're slightly playing silly beggars there though Levi if I may say. There is clear tense in Blatter's quote that 'we have decided' to seed. The inference being that it wasn't the case up to that point. Anyhoo I'm only using those articles as supplementary to the fact that I remember it being reported widely in the UK & Irish media at the time that the situation had changed on the whim of UEFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 Now, excuse me while I decide who I'd like them to get in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 For tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 If I remember rightly FIFA also decided on a whim to seed the south American play offs as it looked like Argentina were struggling to qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2013 There were no South American playoffs; with only 10 members of CONMEBOL, as usual, there was a single qualification group playing a double round-robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 Komdu á íslandi !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Komdu á íslandi !!! Nice work BOF! Google translate a bit too precise there though! It would be more appropriate to say "Áfram Ísland!" Can't wait for the match tonight. As an Icelander and a Villa fan it's not often I get to see much glory. Hopefully things are changing on both grounds though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 Nice work BOF! Google translate a bit too precise there though! It would be more appropriate to say "Áfram Ísland!" Can't wait for the match tonight. As an Icelander and a Villa fan it's not often I get to see much glory. Hopefully things are changing on both grounds though! Google !?!?! How do you know I'm not fluent in Icelandic *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'll be cheering on Switzerland as much as Iceland, just in case you need a helping hand. No harm getting 2 results just 'to be sure to be sure' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Desperate for a Bosnia win tonight. Never been so nervous about a team/game I have no affiliation to. Also hoping Romania do the business against Estonia and get 2nd place behind the Netherlands. Looking forward to the feast of international games over the next 8 hours. Edited October 15, 2013 by Voinjama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 Desperate for a Bosnia win tonight. Never been so nervous about a team/game I have no affiliation to. Also hoping Romania do the business against Estonia and get 2nd place behind the Netherlands. Looking forward to the feast of international games over the next 8 hours.Helped massively by Turkey having a tricky tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Superb win for Ghana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Iceland winning 1-0! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 15, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just came here to post that :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Bosnia score yeeeeeeeeeeeees. Just get 1 more to make it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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