andyh Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 "Watches the game wherever in the world he is". Seems like he doesn't mind being anywhere and everywhere except at Villa Park ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 "Watches the game wherever in the world he is". Seems like he doesn't mind being anywhere and everywhere except at Villa Park ! Let's be honest, if you were Lerner would you want to show up to VP? Probably not, the majority of fans hate him, and if he turned up he'd get dogs bollocks abuse. This will probably be passed off as "defending a billionaire", but it's fairly obvious why he doesn't turn up if he does indeed watch every game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 "Watches the game wherever in the world he is". Seems like he doesn't mind being anywhere and everywhere except at Villa Park ! Let's be honest, if you were Lerner would you want to show up to VP? Probably not, the majority of fans hate him, and if he turned up he'd get dogs bollocks abuse. This will probably be passed off as "defending a billionaire", but it's fairly obvious why he doesn't turn up if he does indeed watch every game. Only one person at fault for that, he is hiding away from his own mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Probably not, the majority of fans hate him, and if he turned up he'd get dogs bollocks abuse. It does not stop Vincent Tan and Mike Ashley. I do not think Lerner is disliked by the majority of fans, I think RL has lost his passion for the club and football in general. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Its obvious to everyone that the club is being run in preparation for sale. It is almost identical to the way that Ellis did things under DOL. Think £200mil seems steep considering its almost double what Lerner paid Ellis & the other shareholders. The money Lerner has ploughed in is IMO money he has lost in a gamble that failed. No doubt Lerner will have claim to the loans he has made to AVFC so I would have thought &150 mil more realistic. I was watching some games from the 2005/2006 season. Kevin Philips was talking about young players developing at the club and kept alluding to the future, it is exactly the same now. I believe now Lambert was appointed to manage the club until Lerner finds a genuine buyer. To be fair pretty much every club does that virtually all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted February 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2014 I see we have all been playing football manager again. I mean it so easy to get billionaire investors who are willing just to throw money at the club. I don't know what world you all live in?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I see we have all been playing football manager again. I mean it so easy to get billionaire investors who are willing just to throw money at the club. I don't know what world you all live in?!? You have to be playing FM to want Lerner to sell up?Probably not, the majority of fans hate him, and if he turned up he'd get dogs bollocks abuse. It does not stop Vincent Tan and Mike Ashley. I do not think Lerner is disliked by the majority of fans, I think RL has lost his passion for the club and football in general. Yep. That's a weak excuse for not turning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Probably not, the majority of fans hate him, and if he turned up he'd get dogs bollocks abuse. It does not stop Vincent Tan and Mike Ashley. I do not think Lerner is disliked by the majority of fans, I think RL has lost his passion for the club and football in general. Vincent Tan seems to be absolutely mental though, and I'm not sure how disliked Ashley is since Newcastle started doing well again. Maybe he isn't dislike by the majority, but the content aren't the most vocal, the most vocal are always the ones who are pissed off and the ones who are over the moon. As for the last part, that's why I emphasised the if in the last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted February 2, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2014 I cant believe anything our club says anymore. Especially if its from that PR robot Faulkner You're not wrong. One viable criticism of the Lerner regime has been that the strategy and intentions of the board have been too hidden. We started with a 5 year plan. We never knew what it was, but it was spoken about. It appeared that this was Champions League football. We had Krulak's rhetoric for a while, and that descended into farce and advice on tickets / pies. O'Neill left, and Krulak vanished, and all talk of any sort of plan disappeared. When Lerner first showed up it was all about him being the custodian, and respecting the fans. The last few years we've heard nothing of any intent from anyone at the club whilst we've gone from investing in players and facilities to selling off the family jewels and nosediving down the table. I don't expect a detailed account of what we're doing and why, but the silence just gives the impression of aloofness. A board that answers to nobody and fans who have no idea what kind of club they're supporting. There is no figurehead at the club, and that makes Randy's absence more important. Wenger, Mourinho, Ferguson are all examples of managerial figureheads. Khaldoon, Abramovic, even Dave Whelan or the Golds are examples of board-level figureheads. We have nothing. We're a ship with no captain, drifting out to sea whilst the passengers sit on the deck hoping we land at a beach before we hit an iceberg. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted February 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) No, to expect that there is just someone with tons of money waiting to spend it on out club. It's just not realistic. A lot of the London clubs spend as they have the money, but rarely do we sell out our stadium and we have some of the cheapest tickets going. If the prices went up there would be an even bigger uproar yet the expectation is we should be buying 15mil midfielders. The responsibility is as much with the fans as with the owners but most are too short sighted to see this. Edited February 2, 2014 by andyjsg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The responsibility is as much with the fans What a load of shit. Look at our home form over the last few years and look at our average attendences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) No, to expect that there is just so done with tons of money waiting to spend it on out club. It's just not realistic. A lot of the London clubs spend as they have the money, but rarely do we sell out our stadium and we have some of the cheapest tickets going. If the prices went up there would be an even bigger uproar yet the expectation is we should be buying 15mil midfielders. The responsibility is as much with the fans as with the owners but most are too short sighted to see this. The expectation isn't spending £15m on midfielders, it's buying enough players that can cover all positions effectively. We spent £20m, roughly, in the summer, and we got a GK, LB, CB, Winger, 2 STs and an all rounder, whilst still having a threadbare defense and midfield that was still unproven at this level. EDIT: I should add, of our signings, 2 have long term injuries, 3 never play, 1 who has been largely terrible and 1 has been showing recently he might be a bit of a coup. These signings are fine, there risks that sometimes don't work out, but you can't build a squad on those players, you need to intersperse some big-ish money signings who will be able to play straight and will be relatively low risk, which we are currently to financially restricted to do. That's the expectation from the board. Edited February 2, 2014 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted February 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2014 The responsibility is as much with the fans What a load of shit. Look at our home form over the last few years and look at our average attendences. Our average attendances for the biggest club in the 2nd city are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Its obvious to everyone that the club is being run in preparation for sale. It is almost identical to the way that Ellis did things under DOL. Think £200mil seems steep considering its almost double what Lerner paid Ellis & the other shareholders. The money Lerner has ploughed in is IMO money he has lost in a gamble that failed. No doubt Lerner will have claim to the loans he has made to AVFC so I would have thought &150 mil more realistic. I was watching some games from the 2005/2006 season. Kevin Philips was talking about young players developing at the club and kept alluding to the future, it is exactly the same now. I believe now Lambert was appointed to manage the club until Lerner finds a genuine buyer. To be fair pretty much every club does that virtually all of the time. Maybe so, but add to the fact Ellis was not investing into the club and failed to stump up enough funds to sign Erik Bakke permanently. I still say Lerner is behaving in a similar manner to the aforementioned season and is indeed looking for a buyer as Ellis was during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The responsibility is as much with the fansWhat a load of shit. Look at our home form over the last few years and look at our average attendences. Our average attendances for the biggest club in the 2nd city are pathetic. We have the worst home form in the league, do you think we should have a waiting list for season tickets? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted February 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 2, 2014 So where does the money come from then? The aforementioned fantasy owner who can afford to throw millions down the toilet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 When's the latest financial report from? We should be turning a profit by now, maybe that's where the money comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 "Watches the game wherever in the world he is". Seems like he doesn't mind being anywhere and everywhere except at Villa Park ! Not sure that showing up at Villa Park at the moment would be anything other than counter-productive. He does not appear to be the sort of guy who wants to get public abuse. Interesting to see that his pal Short at Sunderland turned up for the first time since Poyet took over only a couple of weeks ago. As for selling up, I would not give too much credence to a report in a tabloid. I do not think there is anything Lerner has done over the last 3/4 years that would convince me whether he will sell or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 So where does the money come from then? The aforementioned fantasy owner who can afford to throw millions down the toilet? TV money, sponsorship and other commercial deals. You are aware we make more money than the majority of clubs. Although that will start to change if we continue the way we have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 So where does the money come from then? The aforementioned fantasy owner who can afford to throw millions down the toilet? Yes, the old "I can't see it, so it isn't there" as an excuse to keep Lerner. Keep them coming lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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