The, he's finally GONE! Tell us your thoughts Thread

[hercs23]

i did the bbc predictor last night and must of been very generous to the teams below as i had us going down by 1 point on 32 points.

so disillusioned with villa at the moment, i want to see us playing good attacking football but that will never happen under mcleish.FACT. so then you think when will mcleish go and i think unless we get relegated he wont go/be sacked even if it was by a point.

so then you look forward to next season under mcleish, alot of players will go i think maybe half a squad could go but with no money you wonder what quality mcleish can bring in. which means crap players coming in + crap tactics means yet another relegation fight but i believe worse than this season.

anyway if it goes the way i predict then if mcleish is still here after december we will be bound for relegation. dont think i can stand another year of this

[Swerbs]

There's a (very) unconfirmed rumour going around of a press conference at 09:00 Monday morning. Very unlikely, but fingers crossed.

Source?

Twitter mate, some of them are saying they are surprised the press haven't picked up on it.

[mykeyb]

There's a (very) unconfirmed rumour going around of a press conference at 09:00 Monday morning. Very unlikely, but fingers crossed.

Too early for a football press conference

Since when has McCleish had anything to do with football

[wedge]

There's a (very) unconfirmed rumour going around of a press conference at 09:00 Monday morning. Very unlikely, but fingers crossed.

Source?

Twitter mate, some of them are saying they are surprised the press haven't picked up on it.

You're doing it again, getting my hopes up! I don't mean you personally I mean VT in general!

[CI]

Collymore would be ITK

Has he twatted anything

[Mantis]

Same here wedge. This picture sums up my feelings on the rumours.

[Swerbs]

Need to ask Mat Kendrick and Tim Abraham, surely they would know if there was a press conference?

[markavfc40]

No chance he'll resign although he should. If we fail to beat Fulham he will have done worse than Houllier did in his 28 games in charge. Absolutely shocking.

[Dodgyknees]

Collymore would be ITK

Has he twatted anything

Ulrika?

[Villarocker]

Collymore would be ITK

Has he twatted anything

The last thing he twatted was a Swedish blonde wasn't it?And in more ways than one!

Sorry, I digreseed. If, and I really mean IF, Randy came to his senses and realised he needs to stop torturing us and axe the man impersonating the manager of our club, there would be no better time to do it than now. He could bring someone in to have 10 games in charge to see what he has got to work with before making transfer decisions in the summer. That 8 point cushion should be enough to give the new guy the chance of keeping us up. Let's face it, it would be impossible to do any worse than the current man in the hotseat!

[John_Lerwill]

Need to ask Mat Kendrick and Tim Abraham, surely they would know if there was a press conference?

There's been some talk of RL and PF being in Paris to meet QIA people or summat.

Maybe there's a new financing/sponsorship to take place - some rumour was going that news of somehting like this would come up about now.

[switters]

Removing him now would make some sense because we've got two very winnable home games coming up - calculation could be that removing McLeish would lift mood of players and fans, leading us to get a win or two and guarantee safety. Whereas if he stays and we don't win at least one of them, we're then into a horrible run of fixtures and it'll be hard to see where next win is coming from.

Unfortunately the rumours sound paper-thin. Someone's wishful thinking magnified by the twitter echo chamber.

[Richard]

Removing him would give eberyone a much needed boost and certainly get the fans back on side. Everyone pulling together would , IMO, give us more points in the next 11 games than sticking with Mcleish

[CI]

Another false dawn

[villaajax]

Collymore would be ITK

Has he twatted anything

Ulrika?

[Milton_Monkfish]

I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been said but let's summarise and compact everything logically for a moment.

Lerner is setting up for a sale. Looking at all the pieces, this makes FAR more sense than the idea that we are cutting costs purely for the new european financial rulings. There has to be more to it.

He had a crack at the top 4 and we didn't make it. Fair play to him and I thank him for it. He made me dream again when football was a it's most greedy. Obviously owning an ambitious Premiership club isn't cheap. Owning an NFL franchise with it is nye on impossible.

So cutting costs etc and bringing on someone to steady the ship (McLeish) until a sale is his plan. Everyone knew McLeish's appointment would cause the uproar it did but what's the harm if you're leaving soon right? Plus whoever takes over would just replace him anyway. He would be somebody else's problem.

But now it's not quite going to plan is it Randy? We're actually in serious danger of going down. Also, I don't think the board accounted for the depression that all this has created amongst the fans. There have been worse managers statically at Villa in the past yes, but combine the current appointment with our style of play and 'no end in sight' outlook from the fans and you've got yourself a pretty **** up scenario.

I hope McLeish leaves either by resignation, termination of contract or some kind agreement in between. I have no sympathy for the board because it is their fault we are in this position. Randy will have to fork out a few more mil to fix this.

[Richard]

Randy will have to fork a few more mill? Or the sale of the club is imminent and the new owners will fork the cash?

[Milton_Monkfish]

Randy will have to fork a few more mill? Or the sale of the club is imminent and the new owners will fork the cash?

I don't think a new owner would want Aston Villa in the Championship and Randy must be starting to think that with McLeish in charge a potential sale is in serious jeopardy.

Now I'm not saying that all these QIA feb/march rumours are true but I strongly believe that logically SOMETHING is on the table. Most likely at the end of the season and not necessarily to a mega rich tycoon, but someone else who actually WANTS us.

So now Randy has to fork out a few more million to fix our current situation and make sure we don't go down.

And let's face it he has shown in the past that he would do whatever it takes to guarantee our safety.

Darren Bent.

[switters]

So cutting costs etc and bringing on someone to steady the ship (McLeish) until a sale is his plan. Everyone knew McLeish's appointment would cause the uproar it did but what's the harm if you're leaving soon right? Plus whoever takes over would just replace him anyway. He would be somebody else's problem.

This is the bit where it still makes no sense, 'cause McLeish was neither the cheapest nor the safest reasonable option. If it was pure cost-cutting and just trying to find a manager to tide us over until a sale, then there were free agents like McClaren and Curbishley who would have surely made more sense. Would have needed no compensation and they would have jumped at the job, whatever wages or long-term prospects were.

Even though it defies belief, I think the most logical reasoning is that Lerner/Faulkner genuinely thought they were making a good choice with McLeish and intended it to be long-term. It doesn't make financial sense otherwise.

[Milton_Monkfish]

So cutting costs etc and bringing on someone to steady the ship (McLeish) until a sale is his plan. Everyone knew McLeish's appointment would cause the uproar it did but what's the harm if you're leaving soon right? Plus whoever takes over would just replace him anyway. He would be somebody else's problem.

This is the bit where it still makes no sense, 'cause McLeish was neither the cheapest nor the safest reasonable option. If it was pure cost-cutting and just trying to find a manager to tide us over until a sale, then there were free agents like McClaren and Curbishley who would have surely made more sense. Would have needed no compensation and they would have jumped at the job, whatever wages or long-term prospects were.

Even though it defies belief, I think the most logical reasoning is that Lerner/Faulkner genuinely thought they were making a good choice with McLeish and intended it to be long-term. It doesn't make financial sense otherwise.

You're right that it doesn't make sense that McLeish was appointed. He's terrible. I think that they thought we would get him for free if he resigned from Birmingham first but it backfired. I thought all the compensation to them was for their backroom staff the McLeish wanted anyway?

They probably didn't go for Curbishley cause he's been out of the game for a while (like Houllier and they didn't want all that again).

They didn't go for McLaren cause the fans didn't want him. This of course contradicts the appointment of our current manager but by that point I think that they were honestly sick of looking for someone and that no one else was available PLUS Randy thought 'I'm going in a year anyway'. AND they didn't want a pre-season without a manager two years in a row. So they panicked.

Trying to make sense of illogical decision making is really difficult I grant you but at some point during our opinions we have to put somethings down to the fact that the board are incompetent at some level.