BOF Posted July 31, 2009 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2009 Réal 3 minutes from going out. Teehee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 31, 2009 Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2009 Grygera with a dirty cynical tackle on Ronaldo. Totally unnecessary. Ronaldo goes down with one of his 'no this time I'm actually hurt' dives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalim_a Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Camoranesi looks like hes still got it!! how old is that guy?!! If he plays on the left against Lichaj then that will probably be our weakest side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnsworth Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Yeah Camoranesi had a good game tonight. Giovinco looks like a real talent. Just watching that on goltv online. A number of times the commentator said something which really warms the heart.... When watching Juventus vs Real Madrid: 'And Aston Villa awaits the winner in the final'. How many times are we ever going to hear that? **** get in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I've been saying for around 18 months now Nigel a compete waste of time playing centre mid. You could argue he's a waste of time as a footballer but that would be slightly harsh. He's quick, he can harass people well and stick a challenge in if the opposition player is devoid of any courage or skill; beyond that he's useless. Not sure if his future is as a full back or even right mid? But as a central midfield player, he's a joke. Said it so many times, his touch isn't bad but he has to position himself facing the ball and NEVER takes it on the half turn opening himself up to drive forwards he traps the ball under his feet, then moves himself around it, like a child when they first learn to play football. If he doesn't get tackled or just save time and pass it to the opposition he has a dirty little habit of giving it to someone else who is under monstrous pressure by one or even two men and invariably they then lose the ball. Funny thing is, the other players must notice this. Surely in training they notice he can't do anything with it? He breaks up our attack play just as much as he may break up the oppositions. I am not a fan. I'd say get rid but then we'd only have two fit first team centre mids. Whether he needs a move to spark his career back on track, or maybe a permanent conversion to a full back, I just cannot see him being a success at Aston Villa. I think he'll b gone within 12 months. Sadly for you he will probably be our captain going into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Ronaldo goes down with one of his 'no this time I'm actually hurt' dives. Nicely put. Those darned girlfriend visits. Made me forget the whole match! From the highlights I'd say this is really something to build on. If someone could remind and put a link out if the match reprise is online somewhere tomorrow, I'll be grateful. From Portugoal.com: The Portuguese side were enjoying more ball possession with the three substitutions, but rarely threatened the Premier League side’s net. Hulk was the focal point for Porto to try and reverse the result, but the Brazilian was proving ineffective against Villa’s stingy defence. We have a stingy defence! That's something for sure. UTV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuo Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Don't get the stick Carew is getting at all. He was basically the player who got our side forward by holding off 2-3-4 Porto players all the time, and got free kicks moving us forward. You saw Robertson cheering him on every single time very impressed. He does lots of work for the team without scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocafella Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Albrighton - another sterling performance, not the quickest of players, but he knows where his team mates are, and his crossing from standstill and at pace is nearly always threatening to the other team. And a great ball in for Heskey's goal. On the goal where Ashley Young scores against Atlante, he looked very fast. Is he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Albrighton - another sterling performance, not the quickest of players, but he knows where his team mates are, and his crossing from standstill and at pace is nearly always threatening to the other team. And a great ball in for Heskey's goal. On the goal where Ashley Young scores against Atlante, he looked very fast. Is he not? He went on one dash down the entire wing from well inside his own half to the corner flag at frightening pace, I couldn't belive he was that fast and left his marker for dead, unfortunetly on that occassion his final ball was poor but still he does look to have some rather good pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 1, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2009 I think Albrighton definitely has pace. Scott can confirm exactly how much, but he is defo no slouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I've been saying for around 18 months now Nigel a compete waste of time playing centre mid. You could argue he's a waste of time as a footballer but that would be slightly harsh. He's quick, he can harass people well and stick a challenge in if the opposition player is devoid of any courage or skill; beyond that he's useless. Not sure if his future is as a full back or even right mid? But as a central midfield player, he's a joke. Said it so many times, his touch isn't bad but he has to position himself facing the ball and NEVER takes it on the half turn opening himself up to drive forwards he traps the ball under his feet, then moves himself around it, like a child when they first learn to play football. If he doesn't get tackled or just save time and pass it to the opposition he has a dirty little habit of giving it to someone else who is under monstrous pressure by one or even two men and invariably they then lose the ball. Funny thing is, the other players must notice this. Surely in training they notice he can't do anything with it? He breaks up our attack play just as much as he may break up the oppositions. I am not a fan. I'd say get rid but then we'd only have two fit first team centre mids. Whether he needs a move to spark his career back on track, or maybe a permanent conversion to a full back, I just cannot see him being a success at Aston Villa. I think he'll b gone within 12 months. Sadly for you he will probably be our captain going into the season. Maybe look at the coaches who are not doing their job and correcting his negatives. Or maybe they have been working on his positives off breaking up play which he seems to have done very welll in last two games. And maybe he is going to be the inspirational captain to take the team forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 The criticism of NRC so far is both harsh and justified. He does some things as well as anybody in the game. However, those things alone often prove fruitless in the system we're playing, and those things which he does poorly are highlighted. Relying on him to carry the ball forward and distribute will not work, it seems. Playing him in the right three-man midfield would be successful, I think, as long as his ONLY responsibilities are harrying opponents and winning the ball. If we were to let him just sweep up behind a player who retains the ball and connects the play to an actual attacking mid, he'd be quite useful. With who we have now, they'd have to line up: ----NRC-------- ----------------- --------Petrov-- ----------------- --Sidwell------- Swap in an ideal new signing or two, and it could be beastly. A similar system works very well for Liverpool. Though Mascherano is a better player technically, he plays very much the same role as NRC would. In any game where the opponent is pressuring, he just wins the ball, gives it to Alonso, who in turn gets it to Gerrard or the wings. We have great wingers and a midfielder who loves hanging around the attack in Sidwell, so it could suit us just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuo Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 So funny people are finding him poor this tournament. I've found him superb and one of our better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 So funny people are finding him poor this tournament. I've found him superb and one of our better players. This. I hope he starts every game and gets the captaincy, he is the best natural leader in the squad and i think he will bring us together as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanfromluton Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I've been saying for around 18 months now Nigel a compete waste of time playing centre mid. You could argue he's a waste of time as a footballer but that would be slightly harsh. He's quick, he can harass people well and stick a challenge in if the opposition player is devoid of any courage or skill; beyond that he's useless. Not sure if his future is as a full back or even right mid? But as a central midfield player, he's a joke. Said it so many times, his touch isn't bad but he has to position himself facing the ball and NEVER takes it on the half turn opening himself up to drive forwards he traps the ball under his feet, then moves himself around it, like a child when they first learn to play football. If he doesn't get tackled or just save time and pass it to the opposition he has a dirty little habit of giving it to someone else who is under monstrous pressure by one or even two men and invariably they then lose the ball. Funny thing is, the other players must notice this. Surely in training they notice he can't do anything with it? He breaks up our attack play just as much as he may break up the oppositions. I am not a fan. I'd say get rid but then we'd only have two fit first team centre mids. Whether he needs a move to spark his career back on track, or maybe a permanent conversion to a full back, I just cannot see him being a success at Aston Villa. I think he'll b gone within 12 months. ---------- Good stuff tonight! Kids look very good, top attitude. I worry about our ball retention still. Now, this is pre-season and we were playing a very good side but still I want us to keep the ball to give ourselves a rest almost. We defend for long periods, looking fairly comfortable, then break very quickly and its all rush rush, very exciting tomfoolery. Whilst that is sometimes the right thing to do in that circumstance, and it does suit our style of play, if we don't score off the attack, or win some sort of set piece up the other end we lose the ball and are then subjected to another 3 or 4 mins of defending outside our own box! Just a little thing I'd noticed about our play. We need a top midfielder coming in with Barry's ball retention qualities to try to move on in this department from last year, not in a month of Sundays can I see this happening sadly. Yes, he is not a Villa player. Des Bremner never broke up play at all and was a brilliant passer of a ball. NRC is superb for our team IMO, he chases everything. Fans want someone else, but the duo of NRC and Sidwell were excellent against a very good team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanfromluton Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I've been saying for around 18 months now Nigel a compete waste of time playing centre mid. You could argue he's a waste of time as a footballer but that would be slightly harsh. He's quick, he can harass people well and stick a challenge in if the opposition player is devoid of any courage or skill; beyond that he's useless. Not sure if his future is as a full back or even right mid? But as a central midfield player, he's a joke. Said it so many times, his touch isn't bad but he has to position himself facing the ball and NEVER takes it on the half turn opening himself up to drive forwards he traps the ball under his feet, then moves himself around it, like a child when they first learn to play football. If he doesn't get tackled or just save time and pass it to the opposition he has a dirty little habit of giving it to someone else who is under monstrous pressure by one or even two men and invariably they then lose the ball. Funny thing is, the other players must notice this. Surely in training they notice he can't do anything with it? He breaks up our attack play just as much as he may break up the oppositions. I am not a fan. I'd say get rid but then we'd only have two fit first team centre mids. Whether he needs a move to spark his career back on track, or maybe a permanent conversion to a full back, I just cannot see him being a success at Aston Villa. I think he'll b gone within 12 months. ---------- Good stuff tonight! Kids look very good, top attitude. I worry about our ball retention still. Now, this is pre-season and we were playing a very good side but still I want us to keep the ball to give ourselves a rest almost. We defend for long periods, looking fairly comfortable, then break very quickly and its all rush rush, very exciting tomfoolery. Whilst that is sometimes the right thing to do in that circumstance, and it does suit our style of play, if we don't score off the attack, or win some sort of set piece up the other end we lose the ball and are then subjected to another 3 or 4 mins of defending outside our own box! Just a little thing I'd noticed about our play. We need a top midfielder coming in with Barry's ball retention qualities to try to move on in this department from last year, not in a month of Sundays can I see this happening sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davies4England Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 One thing I've noticed about Nigel this tournament is that he seems alot more happier then last season, maybe he's a big part of our plans now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 1, 2009 Moderator Share Posted August 1, 2009 Just got in and have had a drink. Cheating is as natural to the Portuguese as being willfully awkward is to the French, or heroin is to the Scotch, it's the national characteristic. Pleased as punch to see Albrighton, Clark and Lichaj getting good reviews and it sounds like big Shane did okay too. Cracking stuff, looking forward to the final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuo Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Herds tackle made me grin like a bastard. The sort of tackle you really try to copy during the rerun while lying on the couch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I didn't get a chance to see the match unfortunately, but what was Guzan's "No Goal for you" thing about? It sounds brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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