Midweek Football 22/25 May

[GlobalVillan]

5 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

Brighton are a very good side, nobody doubts that. Unai has done more in his short time though. It’s going to be a great game either way. I’m very happy for Brighton. 

People were adamant they'd lose all their games against the top 4 and we would catch them.

They took 7 points from those games. They've been underestimated all season. Right up until the end.

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by GlobalVillan

[VILLAMARV]

I'd go with hopeful rather than adament. Others pointed out if they took a load of points from those games they'd deserve them. And they do. Well done Brighton.

[Mark Albrighton]

7 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said:

People were adamant they'd lose all their games against the top 4 and we would catch them.

They took 7 points from those games. They've been underestimated all season. Right up until the end.

 

Some of us thought they might not win any of those games. Not necessarily lose them all.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Mark Albrighton

[GlobalVillan]

Just now, VILLAMARV said:

I'd go with hopeful rather than adament. Others pointed out if they took a load of points from those games they'd deserve them. And they do. Well done Brighton.

It was way more than hopeful. I was being told constantly that there's "no way" they'll win those games and that they "won't be able to handle so many games in such a short space of time".

They are a very good side.

[VILLAMARV]

ah well done now

[VillaChris]

4 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said:

People were adamant they'd lose all their games against the top 4 and we would catch them.

They took 7 points from those games. They've been underestimated all season. Right up until the end.

 

We'll finish above them next season. I think regardless of europe we'll add more depth to our first 11 while Brighton will lose 2-3 key players and they'll have to wait six months for replacements to step up.

I think with their style they'll do very well in europa. If West Ham can get to SFs with their style then Brighton certainly can with their play so think that will help us aswell so think they'll be 9th or 10th next year which is still very good from them.

I think most people said if they finished above us they'd deserve it given their run of fixtures after the cup SF and going to Arsenal and winning 3-0 pretty much ended our hopes although we'd still actually have been two points off them if we'd held on to win at Anfield so very small margins in the end when you think they scored that 97th minute penalty v Man. United.

[GlobalVillan]

4 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said:

Some of us thought they might not win any of those games. Not necessarily lose them all.

They won 2 of them and as they had those games in hand over us, that's why it was not being negative to suggest they'd be out of reach by the last day.

It was, as I said at the time, realistic. 

And here we are....

Edited May 24, 2023 by GlobalVillan

[foreveryoung]

Can people stop creaming over Brighton.

Here’s the full Premier League table from 2023 so far:

1. Manchester City – 52 pts, GD +34 (played 20)
2. Aston Villa – 40 pts, GD +12 (played 21)
3. Arsenal – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
4. Liverpool – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
5. Brighton – 37 pts, GD +16 (played 20)
6. Manchester United – 37 pts, GD +7 (played 20)
7. Newcastle – 36 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
8. Brentford – 33 pts, GD +11 (played 21)
9. Wolves – 28 pts, GD -6 (played 21)
10. Fulham – 27 pts, GD +1 (played 21)
11. Tottenham – 27 pts, GD -7 (played 21)
12. West Ham – 26 pts, GD -3 (played 21)
13. Nottingham Forest – 24 pts, GD -8 (played 21)
14. Bournemouth – 23 pts, GD -15 (played 21)
15. Crystal Palace – 22 pts, GD -5 (played 21)
16. Chelsea – 19 pts, GD -8 (played 20)
17. Everton – 18 pts, GD -17 (played 21)
18. Leeds – 15 pts, GD -21 (played 21)
19. Leicester City – 14 pts, GD -14 (played 21)
20. Southampton – 12 pts, GD -20 (played 20)

UTV

[VillaChris]

2 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said:

It was way more than hopeful. I was being told constantly that there's "no way" they'll win those games and that they "won't be able to handle so many games in such a short space of time".

They are a very good side.

From about 3 posters probably on here.

We needed Man. United to hold them to 0-0 and we'd still have had a serious chance of going above them last day with a win so very small margins in the end.

I actually thought they were miles clear of us all season based on their start but they were actually only 6 points clear of us when Emery took over. We've probably overhauled bigger margins to finish above Chelsea and hopefully Spurs so Brighton have remained pretty consistent all year and more goal output means they rarely draw games now.

Beating Wolves 6-0 basically meant we had no hope of overtaking them on GD either, devasting result for us wasn't it Global.......

[GlobalVillan]

1 minute ago, foreveryoung said:

Can people stop creaming over Brighton.

Here’s the full Premier League table from 2023 so far:

1. Manchester City – 52 pts, GD +34 (played 20)
2. Aston Villa – 40 pts, GD +12 (played 21)
3. Arsenal – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
4. Liverpool – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
5. Brighton – 37 pts, GD +16 (played 20)
6. Manchester United – 37 pts, GD +7 (played 20)
7. Newcastle – 36 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
8. Brentford – 33 pts, GD +11 (played 21)
9. Wolves – 28 pts, GD -6 (played 21)
10. Fulham – 27 pts, GD +1 (played 21)
11. Tottenham – 27 pts, GD -7 (played 21)
12. West Ham – 26 pts, GD -3 (played 21)
13. Nottingham Forest – 24 pts, GD -8 (played 21)
14. Bournemouth – 23 pts, GD -15 (played 21)
15. Crystal Palace – 22 pts, GD -5 (played 21)
16. Chelsea – 19 pts, GD -8 (played 20)
17. Everton – 18 pts, GD -17 (played 21)
18. Leeds – 15 pts, GD -21 (played 21)
19. Leicester City – 14 pts, GD -14 (played 21)
20. Southampton – 12 pts, GD -20 (played 20)

UTV

Oh good. We can look forward to the 2023 league table Champions League then.

[VILLAMARV]

4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Can people stop creaming over Brighton.

Here’s the full Premier League table from 2023 so far:

1. Manchester City – 52 pts, GD +34 (played 20)
2. Aston Villa – 40 pts, GD +12 (played 21)
3. Arsenal – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
4. Liverpool – 38 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
5. Brighton – 37 pts, GD +16 (played 20)
6. Manchester United – 37 pts, GD +7 (played 20)
7. Newcastle – 36 pts, GD +14 (played 21)
8. Brentford – 33 pts, GD +11 (played 21)
9. Wolves – 28 pts, GD -6 (played 21)
10. Fulham – 27 pts, GD +1 (played 21)
11. Tottenham – 27 pts, GD -7 (played 21)
12. West Ham – 26 pts, GD -3 (played 21)
13. Nottingham Forest – 24 pts, GD -8 (played 21)
14. Bournemouth – 23 pts, GD -15 (played 21)
15. Crystal Palace – 22 pts, GD -5 (played 21)
16. Chelsea – 19 pts, GD -8 (played 20)
17. Everton – 18 pts, GD -17 (played 21)
18. Leeds – 15 pts, GD -21 (played 21)
19. Leicester City – 14 pts, GD -14 (played 21)
20. Southampton – 12 pts, GD -20 (played 20)

UTV

[Tommo_b]

12 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

We'll finish above them next season. I think regardless of europe we'll add more depth to our first 11 while Brighton will lose 2-3 key players and they'll have to wait six months for replacements to step up.

I think with their style they'll do very well in europa. If West Ham can get to SFs with their style then Brighton certainly can with their play so think that will help us aswell so think they'll be 9th or 10th next year which is still very good from them.

I think most people said if they finished above us they'd deserve it given their run of fixtures after the cup SF and going to Arsenal and winning 3-0 pretty much ended our hopes although we'd still actually have been two points off them if we'd held on to win at Anfield so very small margins in the end when you think they scored that 97th minute penalty v Man. United.

Can’t see them finishing lower then 6th again.

I do see Newcastle dropping down to 8th. 

Villa will be up there again with Brighton, pushing the top 5 spots next season.

Spurs and Chelsea will finish outside Europe again. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Tommo_b

[foreveryoung]

1 minute ago, VILLAMARV said:

Copy and paste chap, UTV I wanted you to hear. 

[duke313]

2 minutes ago, Tommo_b said:

Can’t see them finishing lower then 6th again.

I do see Newcastle dropping down to 8th. 

Villa will be up there again with Brighton, pushing the top 5 spots next season.

Spurs and Chelsea will finish outside Europe again. 

Hard to say what impact Thursday night football and selling half your team will have.

[Mark Albrighton]

2 hours ago, GlobalVillan said:

They won 2 of them and as they had those games in hand over us, that's why it was not being negative to suggest they'd be out of reach by the last day.

It was, as I said at the time, realistic. 

And here we are....

They did. They also lost a game I had them down as winning.

Those four games, and Everton and Southampton I had them down for 8 points. They got 10. 

So fair enough they got more than I thought they would. Despite me estimating their individual results incorrectly I (and I think a few others on here) was one Luke Shaw injury time mistake away from being bang on with the estimated points return. In the grand scheme of things, I’m not going to beat myself up too much for that. 

I anticipate a difficult game for us on Sunday. Hopefully I’ll be wrong there too.

[Tommo_b]

7 hours ago, duke313 said:

Hard to say what impact Thursday night football and selling half your team will have.

I think at most only 2 players will be sold. Mcallister and Caicedo. 

And they will already have their replacements in mind (or in the system).

 

[Genie]

I’d love Mitoma at Villa

[duke313]

2 hours ago, Tommo_b said:

I think at most only 2 players will be sold. Mcallister and Caicedo. 

And they will already have their replacements in mind (or in the system).

 

That's two starters.  Imagine we sold Kamara and Luiz in one go, we'd struggle no matter who we had lined up to replace them.

[MrBlack]

13 hours ago, GlobalVillan said:

They won 2 of them and as they had those games in hand over us, that's why it was not being negative to suggest they'd be out of reach by the last day.

It was, as I said at the time, realistic. 

And here we are....

You weren't suggesting it. You were stating it as fact before it happened. It transpired to be that way, and as others have mentioned could very easily have not been the case. 

I expected them to drop a couple more points than they did. Hoped they would.

Sadly they didn't. They beat teams above then in the league, they overperformed, and they deserve the Europa League spot they've got. 

Let's hope the midweek game for them means enough of their players are feeling a bit more tired when they have us on the last day.

[Jono62]

The lesser spotted Chuk starts for Chelsea.