GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, KMitch said: So much doom and gloom in here... Brighton have 5 games in 15 days to close the season out... Arsenal & Newcastle away, Southampton & Man City at home, and finishing up at Villa Park. It's very possible they only pick up 6 more points before the final match (Everton & Southampton). If we pick up 6 points in our next 3 games, Brighton come to Villa Park only a point ahead of us and the winner of the game decides who finishes 6th and who finishes 7th. Spurs have to play a surging Palace, the mighty Villa, Brentford, and end the season at Elland Road where Leeds might need to get something out of that game to survive. I don't see them getting more points than us if we beat them. Basically, if Brighton pick up more than a point against Man City, Arsenal, and Newcastle, we probably won't catch them for 6th unless we win out. If not, the last game of the season will decide which one of us gets the Europa League and which gets the Conference League. So Spurs are out of it are they? I can't see more than 4 points from our next 3 and I think we also draw with Brighton. So 5 more points for us. As for Brighton, I think they will get maybe another 10 points or so. That would put them 6 clear of us at the end of the season. Which is about what I think. They will get 6th and Spurs will get 7th but I'm hopeful we can get 8th due to us having a decent lead over Brentford. We will not be finishing in top 6. Edited May 5, 2023 by GlobalVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: So Spurs are out of it are they? I can't see more than 4 points from our next 3 and I think we also draw with Brighton. So 5 more points for us. As for Brighton, I think they will get maybe another 10 points or so. That would put them 6 clear of us at the end of the season. Which is about what I think. They will get 6th and Spurs will get 7th but I'm hopeful we can get 8th due to us having a decent lead over Brentford. We will not be finishing in top 6. Anything above 7th is a big ask. 7th isn't going to be easy. We HAVE to beat Tottenham. Brighton got 9 minutes of injury time, we got 4. What the f....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 It’s all down to us. If we win our next two matches then we will still be in the mix for sixth when we go to Anfield. Who knows what will happen then? Things can change very quickly. We just need to focus on lifting our own performance and getting those three point’s tomorrow. We then focus on Spurs. It’s all to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, M_Afro said: It’s all down to us. It's actually not. Not 6th anyway. 7th is though, I'll grant you that. Just a shame we are looking jaded and have horrible fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Philosopher said: Anything above 7th is a big ask. 7th isn't going to be easy. We HAVE to beat Tottenham. Brighton got 9 minutes of injury time, we got 4. What the f....! I didn’t watch the game but maybe there were injuries ? Over the season Brighton deserve top 6 at the very least. They have been one of the best teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: So Spurs are out of it are they? I can't see more than 4 points from our next 3 and I think we also draw with Brighton. So 5 more points for us. As for Brighton, I think they will get maybe another 10 points or so. That would put them 6 clear of us at the end of the season. Which is about what I think. They will get 6th and Spurs will get 7th but I'm hopeful we can get 8th due to us having a decent lead over Brentford. We will not be finishing in top 6. Just don’t understand the pessimism of us but the optimism of Brighton yet our form is better over the last few months and since Emery started and you think they are going to beating at least one of the top three in you second paragraph while we struggle at “at the beach” Wolves and Spurs who are all over the place and have a massive hole in their defence. Just baffles me! The defeat to Man U by a solitary deflected goal is the first defeat we’ve had in months, we scored in something like 20 games on the trot, both us and Brighton have small squads. Brighton could’ve easily lost last night with the chances Utd had but they picked up a good three points but they got exposed. I just don’t get the pessimism for us but optimism for them. Just baffles me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2023 I think we will finish the season 8th and you know what? Considering where we were when Emery took over I’d be delighted with that and really excited for next season. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I didn’t watch the game but maybe there were injuries ? Over the season Brighton deserve top 6 at the very least. They have been one of the best teams in the league. and we don’t? We got hamstrung by a rubbish coach at the start of the season yet still performed so well that we still have a shot of Top 6. We deserve Top6 just as much as Brighton. We started behind the pack and been tremendous since Emery came in and only behind points of Arsenal and Man City during Emery’s tenure…that deserves top 6. Edited May 5, 2023 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Just don’t understand the pessimism of us but the optimism of Brighton yet our form is better over the last few months and since Emery started and you think they are going to beating at least one of the top three in you second paragraph while we struggle at “at the beach” Wolves and Spurs who are all over the place and have a massive hole in their defence. Just baffles me! The defeat to Man U by a solitary deflected goal is the first defeat we’ve had in months, we scored in something like 20 games on the trot, both us and Brighton have small squads. Brighton could’ve easily lost last night with the chances Utd had but they picked up a good three points but they got exposed. I just don’t get the pessimism for us but optimism for them. Just baffles me. I think we will be 4 points behind Brighton by Monday night and having played a game more. I don't think we will beat Wolves. Even if we do, I think the lack of fresh players to come in, coupled with our remaining fixtures and current points total, makes it hugely unlikely. That's not pessimism it's realism and I'm surprised that you are so baffled at the notion we could finish below the teams we are currently below. Also, Brighton have 2 extra games to play and so I think they will get more points in their last 6 games as we will in our last 4. Is that baffling as well? Bizarre. Edited May 5, 2023 by GlobalVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: and we don’t? We got hamstrung by a rubbish coach yet still performed so well that we still have a shot of Top 6. We deserve Top6 just as much as Brighton. We started behind the pack and been tremendous since Emery came in and only behind points of Arsenal and Man City during Emery’s tenure…that deserves top 6. Yes we do but not every team that deserves it can get there. My post was just about Brighton rather than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: and we don’t? We got hamstrung by a rubbish coach at the start of the season yet still performed so well that we still have a shot of Top 6. We deserve Top6 just as much as Brighton. We started behind the pack and been tremendous since Emery came in and only behind points of Arsenal and Man City during Emery’s tenure…that deserves top 6. No it doesnt. You know the only thing that deserves top 6? Finishing top 6. Nothing else. Not how you perform for 20 games. And that's extremely unlikely this season. We needed more than 4 points from the last 9. Edited May 5, 2023 by GlobalVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, GlobalVillan said: I think we will be 4 points behind Brighton by Monday night and having played a game more. I don't think we will beat Wolves. Even if we do, I think the lack of fresh players to come in, coupled with our remaining fixtures and current points total, makes it hugely unlikely. That's not pessimism it's realism Nope that’s pessimism not realism. 2 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: I'm surprised that you are so baffled at the notion we could finish below the teams we are currently below. Baffled that somebody that’s goes home and away as I believe you do think we are going to struggle so badly over the next four games, given how we’ve played under Emery, even recently. Baffled that you think, despite the home stats of Arsenal and Newcastle, and City’s domination that Brighton whose form over the last couple of months has been patchy are going to at the very least get a win but probably more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) As disappointing it would be to miss out on Europe (should it happen, I’m still hopeful we’ll make it), finishing 8th is still amazing considering all that’s happened. Next season we will have a clean run at the league, with two domestic cups to go for too. A solid transfer window and an Emery preseason (a much different beast to a Gerrard preseason), and we could be flying out of the traps. Of course there are no guarantees for the future, a lot can change in the Premier League landscape, so it absolutely makes sense to strike now, while the iron’s hot. But if we just fall short, so be it. We will take the learning and keep improving. It won’t be the end of the world. Edited May 5, 2023 by It's Your Round 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: Nope that’s pessimism not realism. Baffled that somebody that’s goes home and away as I believe you do think we are going to struggle so badly over the next four games, given how we’ve played under Emery, even recently. Baffled that you think, despite the home stats of Arsenal and Newcastle, and City’s domination that Brighton whose form over the last couple of months has been patchy are going to at the very least get a win but probably more. Baffled that I think Brighton, who are above us, will stay above us, given they have 2 extra games to play and are already above us? This literally makes no logical sense. It's statistically the most likely outcome and you find if "baffling" that I think it will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, GlobalVillan said: No it doesnt. The only thing that deserves top 6? Finishing top 6. Nothing else. Not how you perform for 20 games. And that's extremely unlikely this season. We needed more than 4 points from the last 9. It’s not extremely unlikely in the slightest, that’s blatantly false. I’ve explained how I think it might happen which is just as realistic as your predictions. Wit may not happen but I still think there is a great chance if we do our bit. I still think it’ll be a shoot out on the final day of the season imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: Brighton whose form over the last couple of months has been patchy are going to at the very least get a win but probably more. No thats not what I said. I think they will beat one of Arsenal, Newcastle or Man City and both of Everton and Southampton, then get a draw with us. 10 more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, GlobalVillan said: Baffled that I think Brighton, who are above us, will stay above us, given they have 2 extra games to play and are already above us? This literally makes no logical sense. It's statistically the most likely outcome and you find if "baffling" that I think it will happen? Of course it makes sense given it’s statistically likely given Arsenals and Newcastles home record they’ll lose them and with City they’ll be statistically likely to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: No thats not what I said. I think they will beat one of Arsenal, Newcastle or Man City and both of Everton and Southampton, then get a draw with us. 10 more points. Says 10 points or so 40 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: As for Brighton, I think they will get maybe another 10 points or so. So i said 11 minutes ago, nick76 said: Baffled that you think, despite the home stats of Arsenal and Newcastle, and City’s domination that Brighton whose form over the last couple of months has been patchy are going to at the very least get a win but probably more So we are agreeing, what you said? That you believe they’ll beat one of them. Anyway I think they’ll beat Everton and Saints, get six points, I’ll allow for a sneaky draw although against one of the Top 3. Then we’ll beat Wolves and Spurs, so shoot out for final day…draw or win for Brighton means they finish higher, a win for us means we’ll finish higher. Edited May 5, 2023 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: Of course it makes sense given it’s statistically likely given Arsenals and Newcastles home record they’ll lose them and with City they’ll be statistically likely to lose Well then we will also be losing to Spurs, Brighton and Liverpool in that case. I don't think we will lose all 3 of those but I can't see us winning them either. Let's see what happens but Brighton are the overwhelming favourites to finish top 6, followed by Spurs and then finally us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: Says 10 points or so So i said So we are agreeing, what you said? That you believe they’ll beat one of them No. Read it again. You said I predicted they would get 3 points from those games "but probably more" That's the bit I disagreed with as I didn't say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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