Kingman Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 U18's away at Fulham today 12pm but appears to be a delay in starting the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 On 28/10/2023 at 12:49, Kingman said: U18's away at Fulham today 12pm but appears to be a delay in starting the game? Did we lose 7-2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East London Villa Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Did we lose 7-2? We did. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/october/30/u18s--fulham-7-2-aston-villa/ Rory Wilson scored a penalty, Fulham report says Triston Rowe scored but the Villa report says Bradley Burrowes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallett Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 No Villa players in the England U17 World Cup squad. Chelsea and Man City have a combined total of 10. How well is our academy strategy under Mark Harrison working? The FA Youth Cup winning team, which helped give a very positive impression of the academy to us fans, was mostly recruited before our current strategy was in place. Ultimately U17 squads are not the measure, its youth players sold for a profit and players into the first team. But what sort of return are we getting on the youngsters we have recruited in the current cycle? Shakpoke didn’t work out. Kyle Pierre hasn’t been setting the world on fire, Louis Barry had turned a corner before his injury but it is by no means certain we’ll get a return on our investment, Lamare Bogarde jury’s out. Kellyman looks the most promising at this juncture. Perhaps like the first team we are looking for young prospects below the radar of the sky 6 clubs (particularly Chelsea and Citeh). Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa82 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) City and not least Chelsea have dominated youth football for many years, no shame that we are not at their level yet. Coaches from Norway were around Europe and looked at the work being done in several academies, such as Ajax and Barcelona and others. They were most impressed by the academy of Aton Villa. We have now sold some of those who we hoped would make the step up to the first team. The best thing would have been if they could have taken the step into our team, but now they have given us money and freed up places for others. Now it will be exciting to see if players like Tim Irongebeum, Barry, Kesler, Sinisalo, Bogarde and Jhon Duran play their way into the team over the next year. We have a lot of exciting players in the group below those mentioned, born within 12 months. Omari Kellyman, Rory Wilson, Josh Feeney, Omar of Egypt, Kaden Young and Tommi O'Reilly. Here, I have faith that one or two will become important players for us. It would have been particularly fun with a self-produced striker like Wilson. In the age group below that again, Jamaldeen JimohA looks very good, similar to Tim, but better with the ball, a bit of the technique that Chuckwumeka had. Nice to have many players on the U-17 team for England, but it's better to get a new Jack Grealish or Gary Shaw than a bunch of talent that only barely reaches pl standard, or are sold on. From Norwegian NRK (bbc in Norway): - Where have you been on a study trip? - We have been to PSV, Barcelona, Leeds, Aston Villa, a Villa team that is perhaps the best in Europe in terms of player development now. We have visited a lot of the environment in December, now we will put it together and see what we can bring to Vålerenga. Because not everything is transferable due to a large difference in resources. - What impressed you the most on these visits? - Aston Villa made by far the best impression by virtue of the fact that they have facilities and expertise at a very, very high level. There were things where I learned, that I couldn't, that I can take here and make our players better. Edited November 3, 2023 by villa82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, mallett said: No Villa players in the England U17 World Cup squad. Chelsea and Man City have a combined total of 10. How well is our academy strategy under Mark Harrison working? The FA Youth Cup winning team, which helped give a very positive impression of the academy to us fans, was mostly recruited before our current strategy was in place. Ultimately U17 squads are not the measure, its youth players sold for a profit and players into the first team. But what sort of return are we getting on the youngsters we have recruited in the current cycle? Shakpoke didn’t work out. Kyle Pierre hasn’t been setting the world on fire, Louis Barry had turned a corner before his injury but it is by no means certain we’ll get a return on our investment, Lamare Bogarde jury’s out. Kellyman looks the most promising at this juncture. Perhaps like the first team we are looking for young prospects below the radar of the sky 6 clubs (particularly Chelsea and Citeh). Any thoughts? And 1 player between Man United, Liverpool and Spurs combined. Which is the same amount as Luton, Sunderland and Rangers - and two less than Southampton have (3). It's great when our youngsters get international recognition - but hard to question Mark Harrison off the back of one world-cup squad. He's clearly driven our academy forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) Or in less words, the vast majority of our more highly rated academy players have come into the club since Harrison's appointment, can't read too much into one England U17 squad, we've got several that have been involved in that age group - Proctor, Rowe, Jimoh, Broggio, Young, and they will still be in the selectors thoughts, there are that many to choose from at academy level that some miss out, some get left out for a while then reappear, also some academy players don't make the England squads until they're older, Archer, Philogene, Kesler-Hayden, and Iroegbunam being examples of our own, and others are regulars at U16, 17, and 18 level, but eventually fade away. Edited November 3, 2023 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 U18's away at Norwich 1pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Wilson of course. 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 7-0. Mark Harrison OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Had a feeling today would be a big score when I saw our starting eleven and Norwich being bottom of the league without any points, we already put seven past them in the U17 PL Cup. Wilson going to get the headlines, but Pavey, Broggio, Brannigan, and Lynch all seem to be doing well with assists and adding a few goals too, also Borland, Jimoh now has five goals as well from midfield, I think he was going to play for the U21s against Forest before it was called off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 We beat Rangers 5-1 yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 5 hours ago, useless said: We beat Rangers 5-1 yesterday This was the u18s with plenty of younger players featuring . This afternoon our u10s and super strong u11s are in a tri fixture at Man City with Feyenoord. amongst the Academy fixtures 2mo our u12s are in the Truce cup qualifiers held in Aldershot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Chine said: This was the u18s with plenty of younger players featuring . This afternoon our u10s and super strong u11s are in a tri fixture at Man City with Feyenoord. amongst the Academy fixtures 2mo our u12s are in the Truce cup qualifiers held in Aldershot Do you work for the academy? How does one possess this knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Super strong.. as in a really talented age group or just really strong physically ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Super strong.. as in a really talented age group or just really strong physically ? Super strong as in one of the talented groups in the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chine said: Super strong as in one of the talented groups in the country This group regularly put double figures past other Academies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Do you work for the academy? How does one possess this knowledge? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 FA Youth Cup draw should be coming very soon, probably within the next week or so, a shame some of our best players are injured at the moment, Patterson, Young, and Omari Kellyman, that's three of the best right away, although not sure if kellyman would take part anyway. Hopefully we get a good draw, at home would be good too, so can be watched on VillaTV. In theory we can put out a very good U18 team, it looks pretty strong in all positions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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