OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 24, 2020 At a previous Heritage and History supporters group meeting, the club discussed filling the 11 framed spaces in the brickwork on the side of the Holte End with an All Time Aston Villa XI. We've agreed to help them create a shortlist for each position which they'll allow season ticket holders and members to vote on. Therefore, we would like to start this process by asking for your help in creating a shortlist of players for each position. To help a little in narrowing selection, the club have created some parameters from the outset. There have been many players and many formations played over the years. The club see a 4-4-2 as the simplest interpretation of how to fill a side. The use of roman numerals is deliberate. Players will have worn all sorts of numbers and that number would relate to a different position not only depending on the formation - with the introduction of modern squad numbers anything goes! To make the short list, we would ask that players have done at least one of these things: Played at least 100 times for Villa Won a major trophy with Villa Played in a promotion season with Villa Please try and take in to account the “ALL TIME” element, and don’t restrict this to players you have seen play. The Harry Hamptons of our history should be taken in to account. You don't have to name ten, the idea is that we come up with a list of ten that season ticket holders and members can vote on - name as few or as many as you'd like. So, your thoughts on forwards please - i'll add an ongoing list to this post, so you can see who we're recommending. We have until 7th May. Pongo Waring Dwight Yorke Andy Gray Brian Little Gary Shaw Johnny Dixon Peter McParland Gerry Hitchens Harry Hampton Joe Bache Billy Walker Jack Devey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 24, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted April 24, 2020 And I'll get you going with: Peter Withe Harry Hampton Gerry Hitchens Pongo Waring Dwight Yorke Gary Shaw Andy Gray Johny Dixon Billy Walker Brian Little 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 he was a little bit before my time but think Pongo Waring is probably on stats alone the greatest Villa striker ever Incredibly it looks like no Villa forward has hit over a 100 goals for the club since the 1960s which I think is pretty shocking. Modern strikers then Tammy and Benteke need to be included considering the circumstances and Yorke too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Whilst we’ve had some good strikers, I think in the “modern era” we could only put Yorke and Gabby (I know some will question this, but he’s still our leading premier league striker). No one else really has the longevity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Whilst we’ve had some good strikers, I think in the “modern era” we could only put Yorke and Gabby (I know some will question this, but he’s still our leading premier league striker). No one else really has the longevity Benteke? I’m surprised that he hasn’t been mentioned yet, in 2012/13, he was unplayable Edited April 25, 2020 by sir_gary_cahill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Benteke, one season wonder....yeah what a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Was fantastic in the 14/15 run in aswell. Would go for Yorke from what I've seen aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Benteke? I’m surprised that he hasn’t been mentioned yet, in 2012/13, he was unplayable He doesn’t fall within any of the criteria, he was a good player yes, but in an all time line up, not for me 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: He doesn’t fall within any of the criteria, he was a good player yes, but in an all time line up, not for me I thought he had played 100 games for us, it seems that he played 89 times for us according to Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Benteke, one season wonder....yeah what a legend For me, he was even if he doesn’t fit the criteria, same goes for Abraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Was fantastic in the 14/15 run in aswell. Would go for Yorke from what I've seen aswell. I think you’re correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 This is tough. Andy Gray or Peter Withe. Yorke, Little or Shaw. I will go for Andy Gray and Dwight Yorke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 There's many better forwards than Benteke who have played for Villa, strange how he seems to be getting the most interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: There's many better forwards than Benteke who have played for Villa, strange how he seems to be getting the most interest. I think you’re forgetting how good he actually was for us, he could just conjure up a piece of magic out of nothing. You’re letting his Crystal Palace form cloud your judgement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 No I'm not but thanks for your concern 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: No I'm not but thanks for your concern Who have been better than him then in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: There's many better forwards than Benteke who have played for Villa, strange how he seems to be getting the most interest. Benteke has a lot of credit in the bank due to the absolute shite he played with, we would have been relegated 3 years before we actually did without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Benteke has a lot of credit in the bank due to the absolute shite he played with, we would have been relegated 3 years before we actually did without him Was it a ***** side in reality? We had Delph, Vlaar and Agbonlahor to name but a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 As a younger supporter I know nothing about villa pre 2002 so I don’t really have anything to contribute as we haven’t won anything since I’ve been supporting. The promotion criteria for me would only apply to our recent championship years. I appreciate the concept though. Not a criticism but for the likes of me it’s another reminder of how I’ve never seen any success at villa and we are an “in the past” club. I can’t relate at all. The only decent strikers I’ve seen at Villa are Dublin, Angel, Vassell at a push, Carew, Benteke, one season of Kodjia and one season of Abraham. Maybe Gabby as our all time PL scorer but I like many others lost a lot of love for the guy as time went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Spoony said: As a younger supporter I know nothing about villa pre 2002 so I don’t really have anything to contribute as we haven’t won anything since I’ve been supporting. The promotion criteria for me would only apply to our recent championship years. I appreciate the concept though. Not a criticism but for the likes of me it’s another reminder of how I’ve never seen any success at villa and we are an “in the past” club. I can’t relate at all. The only decent strikers I’ve seen at Villa are Dublin, Angel, Vassell at a push, Carew, Benteke, one season of Kodjia and one season of Abraham. Maybe Gabby as our all time PL scorer but I like many others lost a lot of love for the guy as time went on. That's fair enough, I understand your point of view mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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