avfc1982am Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, villa89 said: No need to fake it and no benefit either. It's much better to kill the Wagner leadership and then let the organisation fall apart. I'm not sure the organisation will fall apart. They are still operating all over Africa etc so I don't see how it's possible to just shut them down like that without a huge void to fill. I think it's more probable they get a new leader, get rebranded and anyone opposing gets eradicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: No-one will be willing to enter any sort of business deal or political agreement. They stand to lose their life and/or money if they fail to do as they are told. That’s long been the case but they still do and they will continue to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, bickster said: That’s long been the case but they still do and they will continue to do so There will always be trade. But there will be a premium added to reflect the risk. Imports get more expensive. Exports get cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I think it's more probable they get a new leader, get rebranded and anyone opposing gets eradicated. It'll come under the control of Putin via some unknown command structure. Russia will still claim it's an independent group when everyone knows it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I'm not sure the organisation will fall apart. They are still operating all over Africa etc so I don't see how it's possible to just shut them down like that without a huge void to fill. I think it's more probable they get a new leader, get rebranded and anyone opposing gets eradicated. they should change it's name from Wagner to Matt Cardle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 What was that bollocks about him being in Africa two days ago about then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: What was that bollocks about him being in Africa two days ago about then? Could have flown back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Zelensky stating that Ukraine had nothing to do with the plane crash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: Zelensky stating that Ukraine had nothing to do with the plane crash. Like anyone thought they did, top trolling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, bickster said: Like anyone thought they did, top trolling Yep, I bet he enjoyed that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, villa89 said: It'll come under the control of Putin via some unknown command structure. Russia will still claim it's an independent group when everyone knows it isn't. Most likely the Patriot PMC run by Shiogu but that depends how far Putin is capable of trusting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Genie said: Zelensky stating that Ukraine had nothing to do with the plane crash. Such a card that fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 When all this is over Zelensky should go on telly and do comedy. I reckon he'd be really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: When all this is over Zelensky should go on telly and do comedy. I reckon he'd be really good Wasn't he a sitcom actor before getting into politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, bickster said: Most likely the Patriot PMC run by Shiogu but that depends how far Putin is capable of trusting him. I cant wait til the part where Shiogu is blamed for stealing a nuclear sub and then blames Sean Connery and the Hunt for Red October ensues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 minute ago, stuart_75 said: Wasn't he a sitcom actor before getting into politics? Yeah, that's why I writ what I wrote. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, stuart_75 said: Wasn't he a sitcom actor before getting into politics? “that’s the joke” .jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: Yeah, that's why I writ what I wrote. Just now, Genie said: “that’s the joke” .jpg Sorry gents, I'm not keeping up with the bantz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2023 Just now, stuart_75 said: bantz! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Sky saying the second Wagner plane landed in St Petersburg just one minute after the crash , then 20 mins later flew to Moscow landed and then flew onto Baku Intriguing stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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