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6 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said:

Yeah I know, I was just wondering where they were putting the rail seating and if they'd actually done it yet.

That thing in the middle looks odd, might be ok when it's finished

I'd be surprised if they hadn't. Not exactly much time to put it in between now and the first home game. I'd guess if it's not complete it won't be far off.

Maybe whoever took the photo to get outraged about the disabled section thought the rail seating looked OK so didn't want to include it in the picture🫠

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9 minutes ago, MrBlack said:

I'd be surprised if they hadn't. Not exactly much time to put it in between now and the first home game. I'd guess if it's not complete it won't be far off.

Maybe whoever took the photo to get outraged about the disabled section thought the rail seating looked OK so didn't want to include it in the picture🫠

Odd place to put disabled section don't folk stand up in lower holte, especially at the rear.

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The new disabled area is on a raised platform - so unless  Victor Wembanyama is standing in front it will be fine… 

When they look at the Holte End as part of the next phases of redevelopment I can see them adding 2/3 more rows to the front of the upper tier, which instantly solves the Terrace View ticketing issue. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:

Would those new rows be an overhand type thing?

Not sure how many rows you could add but definitely scope to as the current upper tier doesn’t really overhand the lower… 

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1 hour ago, thabucks said:

Not sure how many rows you could add but definitely scope to as the current upper tier doesn’t really overhand the lower… 

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I'm not sure. If it were to extend any further forward it could begin to block out 'THE'.

Then again, I suppose there could be a bit of wiggle room if 'THE' was moved down by a few rows without it looking stupid and out of place?

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7 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said:

I'm not sure. If it were to extend any further forward it could begin to block out 'THE'.

Then again, I suppose there could be a bit of wiggle room if 'THE' was moved down by a few rows without it looking stupid and out of place?

The is already wonky because of the new disabled area according to a photo my mate sent last night. 

They've built the area but not moved the word so the top is missing. 

 

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33 minutes ago, sidcow said:

The is already wonky because of the new disabled area according to a photo my mate sent last night. 

They've built the area but not moved the word so the top is missing. 

That's work in progress isn't it? I assume when it's complete they will cross the 'T' again when finished.

I was more referring to what @thabucks was suggesting in extending the upper Holte further forward by a few rows and the impact that might possibly have on the lower Holte wording.

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1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said:

That's work in progress isn't it? I assume when it's complete they will cross the 'T' again when finished.

I was more referring to what @thabucks was suggesting in extending the upper Holte further forward by a few rows and the impact that might possibly have on the lower Holte wording.

I believe that's where the wheelchair users will be positioned, so unless they're given claret coloured cards to hold in front of themselves, there won't be a top of the 'T'.

Extending the Upper Holte further forward by a few rows would not cover the top the 'THE' as view from the pitch, only from an aerial view immediately above the stand. However, it now appears extending the Upper Holte further forward by a few rows will no longer be possible, as it would impede the access and view of the new wheelchair platform area.

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13 minutes ago, brommy said:

I believe that's where the wheelchair users will be positioned, so unless they're given claret coloured cards to hold in front of themselves, there won't be a top of the 'T'.

Extending the Upper Holte further forward by a few rows would not cover the top the 'THE' as view from the pitch, only from an aerial view immediately above the stand. However, it now appears extending the Upper Holte further forward by a few rows will no longer be possible, as it would impede the access and view of the new wheelchair platform area.

Could still be extended either side of the Terrace though. You'd only get maybe two rows before you impede the lower tier though I think. 

And Rigo was presumably suggesting that they'll drop the lettering lower down, so the top of the T will now be below where the accessible Terrace is. 

There is an issue with this as they lost about 6 rows from the top of the stand... but they only have 3 or 4 rows available below the H, so they'll have to squash it in when it's reworked somehow, assuming they want to keep them aligned. 

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2 hours ago, sidcow said:

The is already wonky because of the new disabled area according to a photo my mate sent last night. 

They've built the area but not moved the word so the top is missing. 

 

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Unless the last few rows of the Upper Holte are hidden by the roofline, I can't see any rail seating being installed. I thought the rail seating rows were being installed, row by row from the back of the Upper Holte, starting this summer? 🤔

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1 hour ago, brommy said:

Unless the last few rows of the Upper Holte are hidden by the roofline, I can't see any rail seating being installed. I thought the rail seating rows were being installed, row by row from the back of the Upper Holte, starting this summer? 🤔

I don't think they're obscured, just the resolution of the picture is so low you probably couldn't tell if they were there anyway. 

Don't really know when the picture was taken either.  It surfaced yesterday but might be a few days older. 

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2 minutes ago, MrBlack said:

I don't think they're obscured, just the resolution of the picture is so low you probably couldn't tell if they were there anyway. 

Don't really know when the picture was taken either.  It surfaced yesterday but might be a few days older. 

Rail seating looks quite different to normal seating and even with the fairly low resolution image I'd expect to see a difference, especially given the shade of new claret would be unlikely to be exactly match the older rows of normal seating.

Regarding the age of the photo, I assuming it's fairly recent as it shows extensive work has been completed on the wheelchair area, which hadn't started until after the Motocross on the 1st July. I suppose it could have been taken a week or so ago with the rail seating installed in these final couple of weeks before our first home game on Sunday 20th August. It probably wouldn't take long to rip out the old seats and bolt in the already manufactured rail seating for the few rows being done this season.

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Any VillaTalkers who sit near the back of the Upper Holte - have you been informed your seat is changing to rail seating and what row is it (i.e. how many rows from the back are affected this season)?

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When they talked about it at the last fans meeting Purslow suggested that there might be delays because there are only a limited number of companies doing the work and it seems every club in the Premier league is adding rail seating this summer - we might be into the season before it happens.

 

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Does anyone know where the step free access (presumably lifts) is going into the Holte for access to the disabled section? Have they cut new shafts as part of the TV?

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11 minutes ago, limpid said:

Does anyone know where the step free access (presumably lifts) is going into the Holte for access to the disabled section? Have they cut new shafts as part of the TV?

Lift to the roof then parasail down, adds to the VP experience

I know, very cynical

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1 minute ago, Talldarkandransome said:

Lift to the roof then parasail down, adds to the VP experience

I know, very cynical

It would be a weird experience for any blind supporters though.

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