hippo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: That seems very low for half an hour before the voting starts. Considering (a) he needs 180 and (b) Theresa May had the 160 or so that she needed declared and on board publicly by lunchtime on the day of her vote. I think however there is a stigma with coming out in favour of Boris. The shy johnsonites - anyone not going public is probably going to vote for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Wonder how the ballot paper wording looks:- Should Boris Johnson 1.Remain 2.Leave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: What a disingenuous way of representing it. It was between 3 candidates, he beat both of the other 2 candidates combined, there's nothing slim about that victory. In fact, in every single round of voting, no three other candidates combined had more votes than him. No, in the first round 64% of his electorate chose not to vote for him. It doesn't matter how many of the opposition it took to reach his figure. The larger part of the party didn't vote for him in the first round Like I said above by way of comparison, May won over 50% of the votes from her electorate in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: No, it is Teresa May won on the second round with over 60%, she was over 50% on the first ballot, Johnson was 36% in the first round It was a completely different field of candidates, Gove and Leadsom were the only serious contenders for May. Boris was up against Hancock, Hunt, David, Raab...(oh, and Leadsom) Saying it was "as slim a victory as possible" is just clearly false, you can admit you're wrong sometimes you know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted June 6, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2022 He doesn’t really have “friends” does he. A few parasitic leeches and then sort of transactional contracts with other MPs. He’s never going to inspire genuine loyalty, because he such a word removed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Just now, bickster said: No, in the first round 64% of his electorate chose not to vote for him. It doesn't matter how many of the opposition it took to reach his figure. The larger part of the party didn't vote for him in the first round Quote Boris Johnson won 51.1% of the MPs votes in the fifth round of voting That is as slim as victory as possible You've completely changed your argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, bickster said: No, it is Teresa May won on the second round with over 60%, she was over 50% on the first ballot, Johnson was 36% in the first round There were 10 people who stood in the 2019 election compared to 5 in the 2016 one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: No, it is Teresa May won on the second round with over 60%, she was over 50% on the first ballot, Johnson was 36% in the first round Which is still three times as many votes as second place. The numbers in various rounds aren't really comparable. In the first round, Johnson faced nine other candidates, and got over a third of the vote. May faced four and got just over half. It's just not correct to say that 51% / 25% / 24% is as "as slim as victory as possible". 34% / 33% / 33% would be as slim a victory as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 It's poor TV, isn't it? They should declare each MP's vote as it comes in, for maximum drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: Which is still three times as many votes as second place. The numbers in various rounds aren't really comparable. In the first round, Johnson faced nine other candidates, and got over a third of the vote. May faced four and got just over half. It's just not correct to say that 51% / 25% / 24% is as "as slim as victory as possible". 34% / 33% / 33% would be as slim a victory as possible. Indeed, as I pointed out on the previous page. I'm calling for a vote of no confidence in Bicks' stats. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: You've completely changed your argument. Its all the same argument. Johnson wasn't that popular in the party, he won but he didn't win by huge margins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Its all the same argument. Johnson wasn't that popular in the party, he won but he didn't win by huge margins Literally double other candidates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Those on BBC over the age of 60 would be all "Savile should be allowed to present Jim'll Fix It as he has done good things" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Dodgyknees said: Those on BBC over the age of 60 would be all "Savile should be allowed to present Jim'll Fix It as he has done good things" Trying his best. He was dealt a bad hand. It was withered, and cold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Literally double other candidates Literally marginally over 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 minute ago, bickster said: Literally marginally over 50% Is only really valid if there’s 2 options 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Literally marginally over 50% I love you man, but you're a stubborn bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 It's counting time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Is only really valid if there’s 2 options There can never be two options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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