coda Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The FOR SALE sign hanging outside VP may put off the better options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hope it's not Sherwood.As do many but I think fans need to get used to the idea because it's happening.Do you have proof of this or is it just based on what you have seen/read? Just curious really. I'm a betting man and generally when odds get slashed this much it normally happens. With all due respect so am I, this is not your usual market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What's so wrong about what krulak said ? Lambert was backed as much as possible. Accounts back this up. He wasted a good chunk on shite. (He also brought some gems) He destroyed any sell on value on Bent. He played the worst football In the league. He lied about the value of players bought as again set out in the accounts. He failed. Gutted he did but he did. End of. People taking moral high ground. Krulak was asked or posed a question and he replied honestly which he is entitled to do as much as us on here. I really can't see the fuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Laudrup was a disaster at Swansea and was sacked. Why so much love for him? Sherwood is a clown. Klinsmann or Tuchel would be lovely - the chap at Real Madrid would be interesting too. I'm hoping after some really ropey domestic appointments Tom Fox decides to go foreign this time. I’m not criticising you here, I‘d just like to know how you formed the opinion that Laudrups Swansea reign was a disaster!? He won the league cup in his first season and they finished 8th. Their first silverware in 100 years. He was sacked in his 2nd season when they were in 12th. He changed their style from the impotent style Rodgers had them play to a more direct style while maintaining possession and pressing. He signed Michu, Chico Flores, Pablo Hernández, de Guzmán & Ki for less than Lambert spent here. If he came here and did that he would, in my view, be an absolute hero. I have no idea what it would take for you to call a manger a success. I’d really like it if you would explain why you think he was a disaster at Swansea and while you’re at it what you would expect a successful Aston Villa manager to achieve? I conceed that "disaster" may have been a bit strong. My main issue with Laudrup is that there is no long term benefit to his presence. They one a trophy. Marvellous. So did McLeish - with an infinitely inferior sqaud. Spotting a player does not a manager make either - Lambert can spot a player Okore, Benteke, Gil. Laudrup could keep us up - great I'd be delighted. But I'd want him gone that summer ready for a long term stable appointment. I wouldn't want him hanging around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What's so wrong about what krulak said ? Lambert was backed as much as possible. Accounts back this up. He wasted a good chunk on shite. (He also brought some gems) He destroyed any sell on value on Bent. He played the worst football In the league. He lied about the value of players bought as again set out in the accounts. He failed. Gutted he did but he did. End of. People taking moral high ground. Krulak was asked or posed a question and he replied honestly which he is entitled to do as much as us on here. I really can't see the fuss It was completely unnecessary. Petty point scoring. Though I can understand him sticking up for his mate to some degree he is a board member and should act as such, with dignity. In hardly surprised though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What's so wrong about what krulak said ? Lambert was backed as much as possible. Accounts back this up. He wasted a good chunk on shite. (He also brought some gems) He destroyed any sell on value on Bent. He played the worst football In the league. He lied about the value of players bought as again set out in the accounts. He failed. Gutted he did but he did. End of. People taking moral high ground. Krulak was asked or posed a question and he replied honestly which he is entitled to do as much as us on here. I really can't see the fuss It was so unnecessary. Krulak has no credibility in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 "No comment" would have sufficed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hope it's not Sherwood. As do many but I think fans need to get used to the idea because it's happening. Do you have proof of this or is it just based on what you have seen/read? Just curious really. I'm a betting man and generally when odds get slashed this much it normally happens. With all due respect so am I, this is not your usual market. Yep. Next manager markets are notoriously volatile and small. £500 in bets on the same bloke is enough to see the odds tumbling. Its amazing how many people fundamentally misunderstand bookies. They odds offered are not the same as the probability of an event occuring. They are business decisions made to reflect the amount of money people have staked in the event something will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hope it's not Sherwood.As do many but I think fans need to get used to the idea because it's happening.Do you have proof of this or is it just based on what you have seen/read? Just curious really.I'm a betting man and generally when odds get slashed this much it normally happens. With all due respect so am I, this is not your usual market. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Hope it's not Sherwood.As do many but I think fans need to get used to the idea because it's happening.Do you have proof of this or is it just based on what you have seen/read? Just curious really.I'm a betting man and generally when odds get slashed this much it normally happens.With all due respect so am I, this is not your usual market.Yep. Next manager markets are notoriously volatile and small. £500 in bets on the same bloke is enough to see the odds tumbling. Its amazing how many people fundamentally misunderstand bookies. They odds offered are not the same as the probability of an event occuring. They are business decisions made to reflect the amount of money people have staked in the event something will happen. Who said they were? If a lot of money are staked by people then the surely this itself increases the likelihood of something occurring otherwise why is money being staked on the event? I admit this is an unusual market but your post is seriously patronising. Edited February 13, 2015 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Assuming Lerner doesn't do a u-turn on his own 'Premier League experience essential' criterion, that alone rules out most of the names being banded around on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 What's so wrong about what krulak said ? Lambert was backed as much as possible. Accounts back this up. He wasted a good chunk on shite. (He also brought some gems) He destroyed any sell on value on Bent. He played the worst football In the league. He lied about the value of players bought as again set out in the accounts. He failed. Gutted he did but he did. End of. People taking moral high ground. Krulak was asked or posed a question and he replied honestly which he is entitled to do as much as us on here. I really can't see the fuss Probably, he is entitled to his own opinion of course but talking to The Sun about it? Really? Of all the papers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I don't think the bookies have the first idea what's going on. I'd be surprised if it's Sherwood but let's see. I wouldn't be surprised if we looked abroad. Sounds to me as though Paddy Reilly is going to be a key player in this, perhaps the key player, and he has his finger on the pulse as to what's going on in Europe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who said they were? If a lot of money are staked by people then the surely this itself increases the likelihood of something occurring otherwise why is money being staked on the event? I admit this is an unusual market but your post is seriously patronising. Just because the odds are slashed doesn't mean people are putting money on. The Bookies could just be covering themselves given the speculation about Sherwood in the media (who are hoping he gets a job because he gives them easy stories). The Manager odds market is open to corruption (see H. Redknapp's move to spurs) and the odds change all time without any substance to the changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who said they were? If a lot of money are staked by people then the surely this itself increases the likelihood of something occurring otherwise why is money being staked on the event? I admit this is an unusual market but your post is seriously patronising. Just because the odds are slashed doesn't mean people are putting money on. The Bookies could just be covering themselves given the speculation about Sherwood in the media (who are hoping he gets a job because he gives them easy stories). The Manager odds market is open to corruption (see H. Redknapp's move to spurs) and the odds change all time without any substance to the changes. Either way it points to it being a big possibility. People are dismissing it to easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I take back being sure it could be Sherwood as some people mentioned Manager odds are not your usual market. But don't be to surprised if it is him until end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eames Posted February 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2015 Hope it's not Sherwood. As do many but I think fans need to get used to the idea because it's happening. Do you have proof of this or is it just based on what you have seen/read? Just curious really. I'm a betting man and generally when odds get slashed this much it normally happens. With all due respect so am I, this is not your usual market. Yep. Next manager markets are notoriously volatile and small. £500 in bets on the same bloke is enough to see the odds tumbling. Its amazing how many people fundamentally misunderstand bookies. They odds offered are not the same as the probability of an event occuring. They are business decisions made to reflect the amount of money people have staked in the event something will happen. Who said they were? If a lot of money are staked by people then the surely this itself increases the likelihood of something occurring otherwise why is money being staked on the event? I admit this is an unusual market but your post is seriously patronising. Apologies if you feel patronised.... wasn't aiming it at you directly, but no. The fact that lost of people stake money has no effect on the probability of an event. If it did all bookies would be skint. 2 examples. SkyBet and SSN regularly use each other to make money. "Sky sources understand that....... and look here are the odds on SkyBet" People go...bet money....odds fall....more people bet money. Event doesn't occur....guess what..... SkyBet are happy. Bet365's "Have a bang on that" adverts at half time, usually for "next scorer". If you are so minded, look at the odds for "next player to be subbed" at the same time. Amazing how often they tally up. People lump on next scorer at x/1....player gets subbed because he's having a mare.... who benefits? Basically, bookies are universally untrustworthy shits who want your money. The odds they offer mean nothing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who said they were? If a lot of money are staked by people then the surely this itself increases the likelihood of something occurring otherwise why is money being staked on the event? I admit this is an unusual market but your post is seriously patronising. Just because the odds are slashed doesn't mean people are putting money on. The Bookies could just be covering themselves given the speculation about Sherwood in the media (who are hoping he gets a job because he gives them easy stories). The Manager odds market is open to corruption (see H. Redknapp's move to spurs) and the odds change all time without any substance to the changes. Either way it points to it being a big possibility. People are dismissing it to easily. No it doesnt. At all. Especially if one of the news outlets running stories also own say....a bookmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisagg75 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) really though,it's alright saying the-no way i want him-stuff,the only thing that matters is we stay up.there are managers linked who i don't like but i'd have mctit back and bow at his feet if he came in and kept us up.personally though i think it'll be a foreign boss.reckon it could be someone like remi garde as there's bound to be a bit of influence having worked for arsenal. Edited February 13, 2015 by krisagg75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I take back being sure it could be Sherwood as some people mentioned Manager odds are not your usual market. But don't be to surprised if it is him until end of the season. He wouldn't take the job short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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