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But we gave two youth products who could be worth multiple millions each valuable real game experience at a moment when it doesn't threaten our league status. (Did you miss the bit when two defenders were subbed for 2 18 year old attackers?) Con...come on!! Valuable game experience?? The game was lost when city went 1-0 up which wouldve been a better time to bring on jack and callum. Imo if your going to blood the youth or give them valuable exerience the give them more time on the pitch- which is what lambert should have done. Bringing players on with a couple of mins to go is a waste unless its tactical. Im sure if you asked grealish for example which is better for development, 5 min against city when the game is lost or 90 mins for notts county, it would be the latter. The only value in bringing them both on with a couple of mins to go will be the memory of coming on in a big game, and im sure both wouldve experienced that at some point anyway. Lambert shouldve done it ages ago with these 2 when he realised players like tonev, helenius etc werent going to get game time, instead of sticking them on the bench for nothing.

Bennett is really shit though. Bertrand in all fairness is a far better player and would be much better with the right players around him. Hence why he's on Chelsea's books and not Bennett.

We got what we asked for tonight. Expecting to hold out under pressure for 90 mins against Man City away is just stupid and in the end they took the piss. Although City are miles in front of us quality wise it has to be one of the worst Villa teams in my memory, stretching 30+ years.

Better players equals shit if the set up doesnt suit? As someone else mentioned, your just assuming.

Where is the evidence that an increase in funding would change the style of play then crackpot? For the most part you could argue the team even with lamberts more expensive signings have been still been shit because of the set up. The system could stay the same next season if lambert was still here, even with more expensive or so called better players though it still guarantees nothing. It certainly doesnt guarantee we will be better or change the system we play.

So you don't want anybody Putin loads of money into Villa? Sorry Lerner needs to stop Stalin and sell the club already. Don't know how to break this to you fella... lerner doesn't need to stop Stalin, he is already dead!

Deserves the plaudits today however lets not get carried away as he has been poo all season.

Thats right how dare the fans expect a manager to come in and get the team playing decent football and maybe win more games than we lose! Shit owner, blame the fans! Shit manager, blame the fans! Shit players, blame the fans! Shit football.....you guessed it, blame the fans!! Fans lost it big time eh??!!! Are you for real? I think your reaching for any reason to justify your own comments now! The bottom line is lambert and his management style, methods are not working. Believe it or not its about results not excuses and the results arent good enough, with or without benteke!!

Your comments are nonsense. Firstly he hasnt got the best out of the players, especially the other 12 he brought in that you forgot to mention. Secondly, 2 years experience means zero if there is no progression. Its shows a lack of teaching, understanding and learning. In other words whatever is in place isnt working. Thirdly the fans havent lost it, the club, manager and players have been losing it- literally for the past 2 years and beyond. Forthly, lambert has had more support than any manager i can remember for the crap dished up, so your scapegoat comment is crap also. The fans in the main have been superb to lambert. To the point that most have allowed this crap to go on far too long without really voicing their anger and frustration. Fifthly, lamberts not been upbeat?! Have you witnessed his interviews recently, body language, lack of ideas and lack of conviction in his own so called project- especially his comments about needing more quality, and although true are very ill timed with saturday looming. Actions as they say speak louder than words and i havent seen any positive action from lambert for a long time so you putting down the fans for not backing him further isnt really justified in itself really, is it?! What has he done so well that deserves further support?

I would opt for a 442 system early to push them back on the flanks and stop the flow to the front 2. My starting line up would be; Guzan Bacuna vlaar clark luna Albrighton westwood delp bert Wiemann Gabby

He's also being a cock. The only thing he should be concerned with this week is making the players feel like they can get out this mess. That the current position we are in is false, and that he above all others has faith in them to beat hull saturday. This statement does none of those things.

That is absolutely disgusting. I am done with this rubbish. I have a funny feeling the players said the same to lambert months ago!!

Its amazing how much optimism there was at the beginning of this thread. Faith that we would kick on this year. Its now been replaced by pure hope that we dont fall out the division. I think we will just be safe at 17th, but that just aint good enough.

Vlaar is definitely one of the players we should be holding on to. The only thing that concerns me with him is the fact he's a little injury prone. As for him being shit is a little nonsense personally. I think his passing out from the back isnt the greatest at times but in general the only time he gets really exposed is through the weaknesses of those around him.

FFS! I think someone should petition Mr Lerner to order some white flags for our supporters on Saturday, most of them want to roll over and accept relegation without a fight. I dont think its a case of the fans waving white flags. What is happening now is most fans have just lost faith in the sorry bunch of shitfaces pretending to be premiership footballers,wearing our colours and a manager who appears to have surrendered already. I will support the team as im sure everyone else will come saturday however if we lose which is a possibility then they will deserve to be slaughtered after 90min. Including lambert.

Leave the guy alone? Arrhh Poor old lambert!! Nothing is his fault!! Dont make me laugh. He a shit manager without a clue of how to sort his mess. The sooner he goes the better for villa.

Think you need to assess who it it you support, lambert or villa. What you should do is contact lambert and see if he'll take you on as his number 2(in his next job) because you both talk nonsense!!

My hate for ellis was born through the fact that he never give a shit about the fans not that he didnt give a shit about villa. Having said that i think him controlling villa was just to massage his own ego. As for lerner, villa has no real pull for him its a relationship he could walk away from without shedding tears. But yes i believe ellis cared more about villa.

He's only got 1 year left and he cant be getting paid a silly amount anyway, wouldnt be massively costly for Lerner to sack him now. Especially since his staff are probably going to be sacked after the "investigation" anyway. Totally agree. I just dont think lerner is interested in putting another penny in though even to pay off lambert. He may be forced to though if we go down and any potential sale goes down the toilet. God forbid. I just want lambert, lerner and faulkner gone now to be honest. As much as i hated ellis this is getting just as bad now.

Our best player recently!!

I think if we go behind it could get just as bad if not worse. Especially if results are against us. Last home game for people to vent and all that.

Someone needs to do a gif of lerner as stan laurel and lambert as oliver hardy because this is another fine mess!!

I think personally if we do get a result next week or in our last 2 games to keep us up it will be through passion and grit from players and fans, not lambert. That is in itself reason enough to sack him now. As someone else mentioned, if he did get sacked i think we would definitely see the passion and grit we need. Lambert inspires no one.

You can re-post whenever you like. The fact remains most(nearly all) fans believe that many managers could have done better! My opinion will not be swayed with a result against hull at home, i know that much.

It's all very easy to say with hindsight though. When you dont have much money you need to be better at making the most of it. Lambert hasn't done that. As i mentioned earlier in the thread. He has brought in 5 fullbacks for 2 positions and 5 forwards for 1 position. And thats why i say poor management. There is nothing hindsight about it. There is still a lot of waste in the squad especially when we are lacking down the middle and out wide.