MotoMkali

To be fair our 3 easiest games are on the 28th and first of Jan but southampton Is before christmas

Can't believe some of the people on VT are just constantly blaming wesley it isn't his fault he gets no support

Funny because wesley has had 22 shots scored 4 goals and scores 18% of the time when he shoots so if he is hitting the target 1/5 of the time he is scoring 90% of those shots. And once again it isn't Wesley's fault he is having so few shots it is our team not getting him the ball in the middle of the pitch or in dangerous positions.

Yeah he made a couple of mistakes. But you know what every week people are saying it is like playing with 10 players. Yeah he missed the target but why weren't people complaining about mcginn doing that the first 8 weeks of the season. And the ball he missed from trez he made a brilliant run across and the ball was very awkward straight at him so to hit the target he had to try and awkwardly hit it and he missed the ball. I'm not sure why he has revived so much blame today when he has shown his finishing is actually quite good before.

Disappointed in villa talk. No one really passed the ball to him so of course he struggled. Constant blaming and scapegoating of him is ridiculous. Poor passing to him hardly his fault.

This. Mcginn was our worst player by far today. He was wayyy to far forward in the first half and I didnt see him do anything in the second half. Played a hospital ball for their second goal. El ghazi got my man of the match closely beating out nakamba. He was our only player who actually created anything.

Once again a poor performance by mcginn. If grealish isn't back for Newcastle drop him. He has no positional sense and was our worst player today. El ghazi was our only good player after nakamba went off. Couldn't do everthing by himself.

Currently for me the reason we are so poor in terms of keeping the ball is mcginn. When we get the ball he is right next to wesley meaning our wingers and fullbaxks have no one to pass the ball to. Aside from that we just keep playing poor balls that no one can reach. Don't see how people have been blaming el Ghazi. He hasn't done anything to wrong to me.

He is very athletic and gets up well to win the ball especially from goal kicks. He does struggle when he can't get a running jump though but engels and mings need to be winning the ball before the attacker can get to it.

It tells me we are too passive in the second half. Are out of energy and reactive rather than proactive when making subs. It is a massive flaw what was the point in bringing players on against City after the 2nd goal. You could tell we had gone into a fetal position yet Smith didn't attempt to shake it up by bringing on a sub. Put Anwar on and hourihane for mcginn and we would have had some energy. We waited until we conceded and we conceded straight away after as well. It was essentially pointless.

Couldn't find it on who scored so it just tallied up times the relinquished possession of the ball through passing or through other means. His goals have been tap ins but when he gets the ball to his feet he makes good decisions with it. Like when he played guilbert through for his cross to grealish's goal. We need to be a lot better at finding his feet because the way it is right now he is already on the backfoot if he wins the ball at all and it will likely cause him to lose it. 2) I made a mistake regarding the arsenal goal sure but for the first 55-60 minutes we were the much better side and we didn't resort to hoofing it long once we did we slowly lost control of the match and gave ground to arsenal. 3)When keinan comes on we have been chasing a goal in probably all of his appearances so instead of hoofing the ball long to him like we do for wesley for 70mins we actually play nicer football and allow him to get into the game. For example Davis averages as many passes as mcginn does over a full 90 minutes. This shows a couple of things 1 mcginn isn't getting the ball enough 2-Davis is getting the ball in good positions from his teammates where he can quickly and easily move the ball on. I don't really remember any long balls whilst Davis is on the pitch though I am sure we have done some whereas for wesley I remember him chasing 3 or 4 long balls that he has no hope to win per game. When wesley comes deeper we are better but as it is the tactics make him stand as far away as he can and rely on the off chance someone actually plays a ball to within 10 yards of him so he can be in position ice the ball starts falling.

In 85 minutes of game time per game wesley averages 15 passes. He also does the equivalent of lose the ball 5 and a half times per game meaning he receives the ball about 20 times per game and you expect me to believe he is getting the necessary amount of service to flourish as a striker. Mcginn gets the ball 35 ish times per game as well which is really low for midfielder. We clearly need to work on getting the ball to our best players more consistently so they can have a bigger impact on games. And get the ball to just everyone more consistently so they can do anything. I don't believe aguero would have scored more goals for us this year than Wesley has because we aren't providing our striker with the necessary service for him to much of anything. In the Norwich game wesley was dropping deeper we were playing more balls to his feet players were running past him creating space for him and everyone else to operate in but we haven't really done that again since then. The arsenal game we did it in the first half which is why we scored twice against an alright team because we played to Wesley's strengths which allowed everyone else's strengths to come to the fore. I'm tired of everyone scapegoating wesley and hourihane. It wasn't hourihane fault trez's ball to him had a little to much pace on it so the keeper was on him when he got their and it isn't wes's fault we keep hoofing the ball to the general vicinity of the defender furthest away from wes yet we insist it is wes's fault that he isn't winning the ball. Maybe look at Heaton and how he has completed onkly 53% of his passes. What about mings. We got lucky with mcginn running in on opening day helped by wes's excellent ability to keep sanchez away from mcginn aide from that it was a poor ball not close enough for wes to win it and without an excellent run from mcginn the ball would have easily been picked up by Danny Rose.

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When he has got the ball he is good at hold up play and finding the right pass. The problem is we aren't giving him the right balls for him to do it. We either need to be more accurate at finding him with our long balls (unlikely) or we should pass the ball to his feet which worked very well against Norwich and arsenal in the first half.

When he has got the ball he is good at hold up play and finding the right pass. The problem is we aren't giving him the right balls for him to do it. We either need to be more accurate at finding him with our long balls (unlikely) or we should pass the ball to his feet which worked very well against Norwich and arsenal in the first half.

When he has got the ball he is good at hold up play and finding the right pass. The problem is we aren't giving him the right balls for him to do it. We either need to be more accurate at finding him with our long balls (unlikely) or we should pass the ball to his feet which worked very well against Norwich and arsenal in the first half.

Agreed ridiculous to suggest trez is built better for a striker El ghazi weighs 12kg more than trezeguet is 3 inches taller and is less fat. El ghazi weighs 90kg for comparison wes weighs 93 kilos.

He's playing his best football there because we now have a competent attacking right back and it allows us to have conor in the team with him who is probably our biggest threat for goals and assists aside from el ghazi who is more inconsistent.

Mcginns work rate is his greatest asset and his biggest weakness. In the first half it makes him one of the most effective players on the pitch. In the second half he is tired a lot slower and lazy with his tackles. To me a lot of the challenges he gets booked on come in the second half where he has gotten there late and follows through because it is easier rather than chasing after the ball. It also contributes to him burning out later in the season where he picks up more and more cards like when he got suspended after 10 cards. I also think he picked up 2 cards in the games jack missed in the 10 game run because he had to work harder.

I don't think it is mentality issue it is a fitness issue and a tactics issue. First and foremost is mcginn. Once we get to 70 minutes mcginn should be off the pitch. At this point he can't run and it leads to the opponent easily keeping possession in our 3rd as he can't close opponents down. We also lose a lot of movement from our full backs at this point and certainly helps in keeping us pinned back. 2nd you are right we are playing hoofball but that happens half the time with us even when we aren't on the back foot and that is unacceptable. The way I see it we have a couple of options. First we need to utilise the full width of the pitch. Our wingers should be on the bylines when we win the ball in our third so that if they get caught with the ball it will end up out for a throw in 9/10 times. This will give us a breather and let us get back into shape. On top of that it will let us break quickly if the wingers aren't tackled and will force the opposition back. I also think wes needs to drop deeper between the midfield and the centre half's and drift out wide this will mean if someone picks him up they are out of position allowing an easier counter for us. If not he is in free space and we can more easily keep the ball rather than just hoofing it which only succeeds at getting one of their centre halves to collect the ball and play it back to a midfielder.

First of all el ghazi is way quicker than trez the only player in our squad who might be quicker is guilbert. It is funny how you mentioned confidence because el ghazi is clearly lacking it right now as he isn't really attempting to take players on. On top of that el ghazi has better end product and is a threat from outside the box which is important as it forces players out of position trez simply isn't. Finally el ghazi is a year younger 4 inches taller and only weighs a little bit less than wes. If Ghazi can learn to use his strength better and be a little more effective in the air el ghazi would be among the best players in the prem. For me this is far less of a stretch than trez suddenly developing finishing ability and the ability to score long shots on top of all the crossing he needs to learn. I think both can be good premier league wingers but el ghazi is better at the moment and simply put has far more potential in the long run.

The difference is we have played 4 of the 6 hardest teams we will play this season and lost in the last 15 minutes against 3 of them. And 2 of those games we could have had a penalty and VAR didn't check it. In the next 8 games (to the halfway point) Newcastle play us, Crystal Palace, Burnley, City, Southampton, United, Sheffield, Bournemouth. We have wolves, Newcastle, manure, Chelsea, Sheffield, Leicester, Southampton, Norwich (Watford so we have played every team once would make it fair). So we play the 3 of the same teams assuming we get the same points as them from united, Sheffield and Southampton. I presume 4 to 7 points for both teams and will go with 5 each. The other 5 I'd say both Newcastle and us have one game which we don't have much of a chance of getting a point from city and Leicester so we remain on 5 points. We play each other so we should presume a draw (although I think we should be favoured for that game) so we are both on 6 points. After that we have wolves, Chelsea and norwich/Watford (your choice) which I would expect us to pick between 4 and 7 points again so I will go with 4 as both Chelsea and wolves are ahead of us but in my opinion we could beat both. Newcastle have CP, Burnley and Bournemouth some of the tougher teams in the division and I think would be lucky to pick up 3 points. So we will probably be in similar points by the halfway point but we will have a far better goal difference. And I could easily see us 3 or 4 points ahead of them.

I disagree the games he has been best in he played deeper and we were passing to feet more. This is a tactics issue and currently I don't think Dean is getting the best out of him. His goals have come from slipping in behind the defence which we aren't taking advantage of when we are out wide weostly play high looping crosses that the defenders easily get on to. Most of our goals have come from relatively low crosses which aren't intended for the head but for volleys or tap ins. Furthermore these types of crosses are more likely to force a mistake from the centre half through a clumsy touch either with ball ending up at a players feet or in the back of his own net. We have scored 5 or so goals from these balls totalling nearly a third of our tally this year. This would play to Wesley's strengths better as well as it let's him use his strength to hold off the centre half and either finish himself or let a player behind to get it like with mcginns disallowed goal against Burnley.

That was because we were for more goals so both mcginn and hourihane were in poor positions defensively. Mcginn especially needs to be better at getting back into position after a run hasn't panned out so we can recycle more easily. With him doing what he does now not only does it leave us exposed if we lose the ball but it makes it a lot harder to switch the ball as there is a massive gap between our left and right flanks where mcginn should be.