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I agree, however he hardly covered himself in glory during his time here.

Exactly. I like Nakamba, he just doesn’t seem to have a very high ceiling. I wouldn’t move him on but I can see him being used sporadically again.

My issue with him was he won the ball a lot, but gave it away too. That improved after he left, was great at Everton.

Oh, I do hope so.

I imagine if he’s deemed surplus they’ll move him on, but I definitely think he’ll be given his chance. He was looking to build up a bit of form prior to that injury, I can’t imagine after all this recovery he won’t be given game time.

I expect a couple more signings, I don’t think we’re that far away from top 6 with Jack only getting better. I think we’re nearly there.

The killing of George Flloyd doesn’t need to be argued, it was a horrific incident that deserved all the attention it got. But I don’t accept it as evidence that black people are under threat any more than any other race by the police. If that is where we differ then so be it. I certainly have never opposed any footballers/sportspersons use of it so far. Racism in open society is the lowest in history. Online however is another problem, social media has given a platform to the small majority of racists that cause genuine harm to each individual who suffers. The hate they receive is real and needs to be stamped out. I don’t see the issue as a reflection of larger society however.

For what it’s worth, I know a relative of Jack’s. They said the talk of him leaving was his agent looking for a best deal, he was always staying. I know it’s nothing, but it’s hopeful at least.

To be more specific in my point. The blm organisation implies that black people are under some sort of existential threat, that is why so many of their approaches are emotionally charged. It does not mean that I oppose change that has came about because of their occurrence. I believe racism exists and we should make constant attempt to eradicate this where possible. Change is needed per example, where necessary. The idea that radical change is needed or even necessary is where I disagree.

@Rolta Just to save time. Firstly, I was speaking about BLM the organisation, not the movement itself, my apologies. I think an organisation that specifically excludes members of other races is racist itself and will inevitably cause racial tension. The ‘protests’ made little sense to me, destroying public and private property is a crime, has no place and the level of your outrage should not be correlated to the authenticity of your argument. I disagree that society is in a pandemic of racism. I disagree with the idea of equity being the answer to disparity. In regards to police brutality against black people, there is no evidence. White officers do not kill black suspects at a higher rate compared with non white officers. I’m not a racist because I oppose the blm narrative. I support all movement that is away from racial inequality, I believe blm is actually doing greater harm than good.

A group can claim to be about equality whilst their opinion/means of achieving so can be incorrect. To keep it short, I believe racial equality is fundamental to a flourishing society, without it all we do is minimise the pool of potential, as talent and iq are limited as in any society. I don’t believe that blm’s views towards equity or how it is to be achieved, nor their stance on modern racism is anything more than damaging towards this, IMO. The BLM organisation has helped raise some important issues, which can only be a good thing. But it seems clear to me that it’s not them that have the answers.

I’m 100% on board with you. It’s not just the knee being hijacked though, it’s the unambiguous use of it. The England teams message for their use of the knee was clear, and fully understandable. But, it’s use by so many worldwide, for various different opinions on racial inequality has made it difficult to follow exactly what it is that it opposes. People may not support the knee, but it may not have anything to do with the England teams use of it.

I agree. Whilst I’m against the BLM movement itself, I see no reason why taking the knee has to be booed at stadiums. My original question was, that if you don’t support it, are you a racist? I don’t mean oppose it. Some footballers have spoken about it, but as it is used across the board by many people other than footballers, what is taking the knee representative of exactly now? Racism? Institutional racism? Systematic racism? Online racism? Is it racism towards black people in specific? It has had an effect on a lot of people in different ways and not everybody is going to support it, that does not mean that every person who does so is a racist.

That would entirely be dependant on the gesture and the circumstances, each on its own basis. On the knee, I don’t oppose its gesture, I genuinely hate the idea of racism itself, it makes little sense.

Sorry, I’m not trying to argue, I just don’t understand what you mean. I understand the reason the players are doing it isn’t because of BLM, but it’s symbolism is already so tied up in it. It’s not me making the association, it was already there.

I’m 100% anti racism. I’m not convinced that all people who oppose the knee are racists, as is the claim. Booing is another matter.

Its association with BLM is already there. It may have moved on, but footballers will struggle to say it’s just about online abuse.

So it’s support the knee or you’re a racist? Genuine question.

I imagine the holte end in full voice singing super Jack will make him feel at home again. It’s not just that he’s so loved by the fans, he’s Mr Aston Villa, he really is our Totti.

Just need Leo for the cherry on top

Agreed. However, I hate the transfer windows for the same reason. Will he/won’t he leave? The sooner the season is underway, the better.

That’s a great deal. £20 for an XXXL pro shirt? Count me in.

In which case I really feel for him. Strategic or not, it just seems out of order.

I hope it’s an injury, or that was a massive slap in the face for Jack.

He’s an amazing talent. He’ll be tearing it up on a regular basis, whoever he’s playing for in 3/4 years time imo.