mockingbird_franklin

contact doesn't equal a foul

nice assist from mike dean for Stokes goal

Like others have said, Villa do like putting an end to poor runs of form, both for teams and players. So a third defeat on the bounce for us I'm afraid.

don't be so hard on yourself, feel free to continue, so long as it's a sha lose of course

So in Tupi-Guarani the word for a jaguar is pronounced as Yag-war, but the English word for a Jaguar is pronounced Jag-yew-er, Seeing as we're speaking English I guess that confirms the correct pronunciation in our case is Jag-yew-er. When America start using Tupi-Guarni as an official language you can feel free to pronounce it Jag-waar if you like, but please not in reference to the rather splendid motor cars. It doesn't matter were the word derives from, if it did all those French and German derived words in the English language should be pronounced as the French or Germans would. As an example the french pronounce the number six as sis, now obviously if I'm counting in English I wouldn't use the french pronouncement would I.

so, it's your fault?

now that's better

Fixed

Agree with this, but I also want them staying in the hunt long enough to put them off taking a 10 points deduction this season for going into administration, if that is indeed to be the cost of missed promotion.

works just as well, the very slight difference in pronunciation I'll put down to accent. In fact I guess with my accent it's more Jag-yew-a It's the yew in the middle that's the important bit that makes it a 3 syllable word rather than a retarded sounding 2 syllable one

I guess my slant is it was indeed very honest to say that the bill was very expensive, as it is, which is refreshing of them to admit, even if the statement wasn't made as a sudden willingness to own up to the fact that in this country we pay very high rates for our water, so hence unintentional. maybe it's only me that sees the lack of thought that would go into a company telling it's customers that the bill they have just received from them is "very expensive" as though there is no responsibility on there part for the level of the charge. just out of curiosity and to check my memory isn't off I just checked my old bills and my water rates are very nearly double that of 2006's

Hi, Just though I'd share a little something with you, like most people I recently received my annual water bill and as usual wasn't surprised to see yet another annual price increase well above the rate of inflation, and thinking it's not as bad as previous years and only 2-3% above inflation, isn't it amazing how we've been worn down into thinking that a 6-8% price increase is a good result. Anyhow, my wife took it upon herself to phone and arrange to pay it by direct debit, and during her conversation the woman she spoke to actually said "My, your bill is very expensive Isn't It". Now my wife being a bit more reserved than myself failed to make comment on this revelation, me, I would have probably made comment about it possibly being so high due to the 100%+ increase in charges over the last 8-10 years that have been imposed by the water company. Anyhow rather than it being a case of a sudden policy of honesty being introduced by the water Co, it turns out it was just an attempt to get us to agree to have a water meter fitted, which actually based on the cost of the water supplied would be a good idea, however when you then see they charge you almost the same amount to then take that water away as they did to supply it, and impose a standing charges amounting to nearly 100 quid before you use a single drop, turns out we would probably be worse off than our already very expensive water rates based on an estimated consumption. My calculations on consumption were based on my average consumption which was metered while I was in Australia and which fell well below the recommended 155 litres per person per day, and which cost me about half what i would have to pay here on a meter. Anyhow I digress, does anybody else have tales of unintentional honesty?

Seeing as we make the cars it's only fair we get to decide on the correct pronunciation So Jag-yew-are it is then.

failure to score in a good first half performance is not a good thing, lets hope Mcleish fails to work his magic at half time.

well Bolton win, a draw would have been the best result, But if either team was to win I guess Bolton was the lesser of two evils

4/5 2L bottles a day? No **** way. well your right he doesn't drink 8-10 litres a day, but as someone else pointed out 42 litres a week is 6 litres a day. he drinks at least two 2litre bottles a day at work and will often buy smaller 1/2 litre bottles from the vending machine, he told us he usually drinks another 2 litre bottle each evening and drinks about three 2 Litre bottles each day over the weekend, we've seen how much he drinks while at work and can easily believe how much he drinks at home. When we saw the article about the guy drinking 74 pints a week, as a joke we photo shopped his face onto the article, it wasn't until later we worked out how much he actually drinks and realised he consumes an equal amount to the guy in the article.

we have a guy at work who drinks about 42 litres of coke a week, it's unbelievable, he drinks at least 4 litres everyday just while at work, I hardly drink any carbonated drinks and haven't done for years, I much prefer tea, coffee, water and fruit juice based cordials.

quite a few pubs I used to drink in (or didn't but can remember) and are now gone are missing from the list

Thought we would lose at Wigan, we were lucky not to, I don't see anything that makes me think or feel any different about this game so a defeat is on the cards

The government said recently that mortgages were to be made easier for people without the necessary deposits. The Telegraph was unimpressed, saying and overpriced property can partly be attributed to an easy supply of credit, one feeds the other, It's how bubbles get inflated, the current problem is an awful lot of effort seems to be going into keeping an over inflated bubble pumped up.

horrible feeling about this one, I'm with Richard, I think we will lose

but non of these are easily detected with the simple installation of a few cameras, so it's easier to paint speeding as chief demon, bad driving is whats dangerous and yes speeding is bad driving, but sometimes acts of speeding take place more due to the way speed limits are inexplicably set and poorly displayed.

I know it's the tory party's overriding approach to keep repeating that Brown caused the recession, in the hope that constant repetition will make people believe it, but it really is nonsense. The biggest problem, by far, is the way the finance sector globally has become bloated, living on Ponzi schemes and illusion, and apparently beyond democratic control. It's the banks that are bankrupt, not the country. As for Labour's record, here's a study which specifically assesses their term of office. The summary (see page i, "Takeaways") is basically that the economy grew strongly, with GDP per capita growing faster than eg Germany and the US over that period; that this was not due to unsustainable bubbles; that finance contributed only 0.4% of the annual 2.8% growth; and so on. How much of this growth was due to a credit based consumer spending boom fed by a commodities bubble (rampant house price inflation in this case) wasn't a major contributory factor of this house price inflation bubble easy and often wreckless supply of credit from the financial sector as is usually the route cause of all commodity bubbles. You definitely can't say Brown was just an innocent bystander and just as equally you can't say he alone is to blame, the seeds were sown by earlier Governments, and the worry is current government seem more intent on supporting the same scenario rather than learn from these mistakes.

He's right though. "1984/Big Brother" it may be (note to Wiggy: that's a reference to George Orwell [1903-1950], British novelist and essayist) :winkold:, revenue-generating it may be, but you always get caught, so you may as well stick to the limits. And in the long run, that will be no bad thing. I actually do travel within speed limits 99% of the time, I've taken the decision to just relax more when I drive (no easy thing to do on the UK) But it still frustrates the shit out of me when limits are set in such a way as to make it easy to accidentally or unintentionally break them, i.e constantly and inexplicable changing limits, poorly signposted changes, or just down right strange limits, usually these are accompanied by a proliferation of speed cameras. I've been driving 26 years and it's only during the last few years that I've ever found myself traveling on a road and having no real idea what the actual speed limit is, this is due to many of the previously mentioned problems. It also annoys me that along with these measures there seems a concerted effort to paint speeding as the most dangerous of driving activities, Drivng down the M1 as I do regularly, the most dangerous experiences I've had have had usually had nothing to do with people speeding. But I guess that speeding is just easier to monitor and detect than most other driving offences, and it can be a nice little earner as well. Having been on a speed awareness course, I would tend to disagree. According to what I was told on the course (iirc), if someone is hit by a car at 20 mph they are 10% likely to be killed. If someone is hit by a car at 30 mph they are 50% likely to be killed. If someone is hit by a car at 40 mph they are 90% likely to be killed. Speeding is mostly quite dangerously should something go wrong. Especially in rural areas. Speeding on a variable speed limit motorway probably doesn't significantly increase risk of death or serious injury though in fairness. It just seems that the police rarely actually pay attention to the places where accidents happen (even though they claim that accidents are one of the criteria that determines where they put the cameras). I suspect, unlike Mr Mooney, you have totally missed the point of my post.

He's right though. "1984/Big Brother" it may be (note to Wiggy: that's a reference to George Orwell [1903-1950], British novelist and essayist) :winkold:, revenue-generating it may be, but you always get caught, so you may as well stick to the limits. And in the long run, that will be no bad thing. I actually do travel within speed limits 99% of the time, I've taken the decision to just relax more when I drive (no easy thing to do on the UK) But it still frustrates the shit out of me when limits are set in such a way as to make it easy to accidentally or unintentionally break them, i.e constantly and inexplicable changing limits, poorly signposted changes, or just down right strange limits, usually these are accompanied by a proliferation of speed cameras. I've been driving 26 years and it's only during the last few years that I've ever found myself traveling on a road and having no real idea what the actual speed limit is, this is due to many of the previously mentioned problems. It also annoys me that along with these measures there seems a concerted effort to paint speeding as the most dangerous of driving activities, Drivng down the M1 as I do regularly, the most dangerous experiences I've had have had usually had nothing to do with people speeding. But I guess that speeding is just easier to monitor and detect than most other driving offences, and it can be a nice little earner as well.