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Ah.... yet another grim day in the life of a Villa supporter....... It's getting really boring now... Are you listening Mr Lerner?............................." hears a pin drop"........................................................ Nope didn't think so!

Lol!.. thought i would just pop on to see how we were performing today...........DOH! What a complete waste of space lol! Roll on next season.......AGAIN!

Well its the Sun as many have already stated!.. Who's staff are stuffed full of fans of London based fans no doubt a large portion of whom just happen to be Arsenal fans..They love a good old gloat at the best of times & as they have been getting a bit of an inferiority complex of late, with their best players being poached by "bigger clubs", maybe this is some way they can big themselves up a bit again? Typical Red top tripe all biased towards the London clubs & derogatory towards us. Let me see don't we play them soon? Impeccable timing!..nuff said

Very good point actually re: Spurs.. Of course this lad will be being fed by advisors too no doubt all telling him how to make the most money over his career blah blah blah.. We are of course a great bet at the moment ....So long as we remain in the Prem of course... As we are possibly the best route to 1st team action in the Prem at the Mo for a youngster. Guess we'll just have to put up with the fact we will be viewed as a stepping stone at the moment.

Well at least we know what he is all about now.. just as soon as he hits a bit of form he'll be off. Remind me to not bother buying a top with his name on it lol! It'll be obsolete rather quickly! The sad part is you just know that we are going to have this constantly revolving door of young players in.. better players out thing going on with the net result that we can never build a successful team & if we do it'll last about 1 season then all our stars will be poached by the moneybags fat cat clubs & we'll be back to square 1 again.

Had to laugh at Smallings pathetic attempt to persuade the Ref that Benteke had fouled him in the build up to our 1st goal. Was watching on TV as sadly couldn't be there through work commitments & on the replays it was embarrassing.. He practically assaulted Benteke who simply was too tough for him & he came off 2nd best but the ridiculous bit was he firstly looked kind of stunned & then when he realised Benteke was still there with the ball at his feet... he looked at the ref & suddenly went into what i can only describe as what looked like a kind of fit!.. As though he had been kicked in the head or something!? Pathetic ....absolutely pathetic.

Thanks ciggiesnbeer...& Stevo believe me i wouldn't have turned it off against any other team apart from the mancs.. not a chance!. I'm a bit surrounded by plastic Man U fans by me too & just cannot bear to listen to them gloating so this probably had something to do with it too i guess.. Anyhow i didn't take your comments Stevo as making me any lesser of a fan...& i can see how it would seem maybe odd lol! Even if you had it wouldn't have washed with me anyhow as i have been a season ticket holding Holte ender since the days or Brian Little & Andy Gray & home & away fan even in our 2nd division days. Goodness me i've even hitch hiked to Plymouth, Nottingham & Manchester so as to not miss a game before now lol! Plus i was in Rottedam in 82' so nobody can say i'm anything other than a hard core Villa man that's for sure!. Only wasn't there yesterday due to a work clash. Anyhow back onto the important stuff & i really like the look of what Lambert is building here. I thought Man U just didn't quite know how to cope with us for a while yesterday but then our inexperience showed too quite often...but that will improve for sure. I just wish Gabby would start to produce more regulary as he had 2 or 3 chances to do something yeasterday & each time he either made the wrong choices or his excecution was very poor. He should be doing better than that as one of our senior players now (which in itself is quite scary). we had a couple of openings when 2-0 up to put the game to bed & each time we kind of got "rabbitinheadlightsitis" when a simple pass or level head could have won us the game.. Good signs though & although i chose not to watch the inevitable capitulation (no doubt Ref assisted to a point as always against them) I feel quite hopefull now for survival this season & a much better one next time out!

Well thanks for the compliment Stevo..After all who'd want to be ordinary? .. Actually i really did ..Call it a hunch if you will .. Next time i correctly "guess" what is going to happen, having witnessed it year in year out for goodness knows how long, i'll remember to force myself to endure the misery of watching it. I guess i'm just that sick & tired of repeatedly watching the same thing over & over again against that lot that i just decided this time i'd switch it off whilst the going was good instead of having more horrid memories polluting my brain forever & a day... It's actually worked quite well as i have very pleasent memories from the game that i watched ... Some may say odd.. some however may call it prophetically wise

Lol! Same old load joke.. Remarkable how this club manages to find so many new ways of completely cocking up a promising (Although sadly all to predictably false) position. It's actually boring now. It was so obvious that the annual F**K it up against Man U from a winning position was going to happen i actually stopped watching at 2-0. "The Mrs said have a look you never know" to which i gave a "suprised at such a ridiculous comment" glance. I genuinely didn't even bother to check the result until now what 8:15 as i am off out to work & wouldn't have been able to see the inevitable until tomorrow otherwise & i simply couldn't be arsed to wait that long. Groundhog day continues at Villa Park.

Bye

And there we go we go... the Ref starts to intervine .............Just for a change .. I can't even stand to watch it now.. Especially listening to the shockingly biased commentary on Sky.. And Ray Wilkins should be sacked for even daring to suggest that Benteke fouled Small in the build up to the 1st goal.. Shocking & its ruining a good game for me so I'm offski! Now wait for it we'll get a man sent off & thet'll win with a last minute dodgy penalty in the 20th minute of injury (fergie) time.

Yup! I still say, with whats gone on here over the last 3 seasons, that staying up would be an acheivement! I do not say that in the sense i would be content with that as a norm, not at all, but rather that since last season (when we were somewhat fortuous to stay up) we have lost Petrov, Dunne, Collins, Heskey & Cuellar amongst others. Ok Dunne can come back in possibly but that is a hefty chunk of experience we have lost from the squad....Again! We spent 20m yes but really the squad is smaller & less experienced than last season. My point is that many clubs of lesser stature than AVFC would surely have already succumbed & fallen with what has gone on here recently. So my comment is made viewing the big picture of the last few seasons as a whole & what i am saying is that if we survive this season, when in my opinion we have "Bottomed out" so to speak, then that is indeed quite some acheivement & a testament to the potential size of this sleeping giant of a football club.... I am not saying that i am "content to just stay up" at all as you appear to infer. I would of course take survival this season as the "minimum of expectancy" but do still think that if we do stay in this league it will put us in a much better position ready for next term & in the summer we could move on the likes of Hutton & Dunne clearing some space on the wage bill & we can at long last start to climb back towards where this club should be with a bright young manager & a fresh vibrant young squad in place.... But we need to survive this season for now.. Thats why i think it would be a big achievement.

I'm absolutely delighted for Brad, i remember when we won the inter toto cup & he was immense all that tournament & i was really disappointed when it appeared he'd left the club.

I would be delighted if we can somehow scrape a win against Reading & 2 points from the other 3 no matter how unlikely it appears. The point a game marker is a good indication of how we are doing & so long as we remain within 2 or 3 points of that we have a chance especially considering that thus far we have been kind of gelling whilst coping with injuries to Dunne, Clark, Ireland, Bent (The spine of the team) & now El Ahmadi plus suspensions & the like. I do expect us to improve & we also have the January window fast approaching so if we can stay in touch until then we may yet survive & if we do.. That will be one heck of an achievement in my view with whats gone on at this club over the last 3 seasons. UTV

I'd be content with 2 points from the next 3. Then if we can beat Reading that would put us on about 14 played with 14 points which would be a solid platform to build on considering all the new players were gelling etc in the first quarter of the season. That win against MON was crucial. Love the look of Benteke & although Gabby looks to have lost a yard since he beefed up he is still quicker than most & appears to be finding a bit of form at last. We still need a good partner for Benteke though in my opinion.. A Gary Shaw type who will work off his knock downs & take some of the attention away from him.

The problem we have is chance conversion in the main. The main thing in football is putting the ball in the net & we are dismal at it!..we are 3rd from bottom as it stands of the chance conversion table (See here http://tinyurl.com/cqfxhv8 ) As it happens todays opponents Sunderland are TOP of the converted chances table with over 50%.. So for me if we can put more chances away we will climb the table.. if not we will end up in trouble.

Dwight Yorke & Rednap were absolutely spot on on Sky earlier when commenting on that tripe. We have nothing.. No stars no leaders or exciting players whatsoever.. Just 15 "mr bog standards". Awful football team which surely will get relegated now. I think this has been just one gamble too many .. we were not in a position to gamble like this having luckily escaped the drop last season... You surely don't gamble in that situation? Surely you solidify things for a while with some experience? I really cannot even see January saving us this time as we will be that far adrift by then it won't matter. Imagine going into the run in this season 10 points worse off than than we were last term!! Well that is whats on the cards with our upcoming fixtures! Disappointed & rapidly losing interest altogether this has been going on for far too long now & the excuses have run out!

I can now honestly say having watched that today & this side this season that this is by a clear country mile the worst Villa side i have ever seen. Absolutely dog awful & for me we are easily the worst side in the Premier League. It is just men against boys as is being shown with the sendings off we have suffered now twice this season already. We just made Norwich City look like a top 4 side with us being the home side & even despite going 1-0 up. Norwich on another day would have had 5 or 6 goals in that game. I have 0 interest in this Villa team whatsoever as it stands they are quite frankly just plain dull. To think we are thanking our lucky stars for a 1-1 draw at home to Norwich City. Oh how the mighty have fallen..Sort it out Randy because this team is pathetic.

Not confident at all i have to say although like many i do think we will get better eventually. My biggest concern is we are playing with fire for the 3rd season in a row. We've had 3 seasons of squad decimation the like of which i've never witnessed before. I shudder to think of the list of players we have either released, sold or had poached from us over the last 36 months. We have replaced quality, skill & solid experience with Youth, potential & inexperience. That is one risky policy in the World's toughest league especially when considering we barely survived the last two campaigns & we have now decimated the squad still further! Having said all that i do like Lambert & think he has signed some real gems......for the future! My biggest worry is where we will be by the time that happens. We are playing kind of ok in patches but the inexperience is really costing us at the moment, either with a sitter being missed or a goal conceded as players struggle to find their feet having been quite literally thrown in the deep end. Many of these guys will turn out to be top players for sure but how long is it going to take as we do not have much time for things to start turning. We need a couple of big wins now to make up for the bad start. Here's to hoping :s This is possibly one of the biggest seasons in the history of Aston Villa FC.

I can see his potential.. trouble is we are a side who badly lack creativity, which was obvious last season & has been for a long time now & it's baffling how we still have done nothing about it. The one thing i kept saying in the transfer window was we badly needed some more creativity as without it, no matter how good your strikers are, you ain't gonna score many goals & guess what!*? I agree with PL that he can be a real player (if he learns how to finish) but as a team i fail to see how we can afford to have another heskeyite finisher in the side... If he was at Old Trafford he'd get a hatfull but he's never gonna put away the pathetic 1 or 2 chances we create in a game. He is indeed costing us points & that is very worrying as we could easily be bottom by Christmas with the fixtures we have coming up.

Did the trick though with Bent didn't it...as in not starting him... He looked more focussed than recently i thought when he came on. We need him firing as it seems Weimann is going through one of those lean spells & Benteke has a touch of rabbitinheadlightitis. As for Gabby well he is his usual unpredictable self as he's always been... Brilliant one minute & anonymous the next.

I think we have to remember he is only 21.. I like the look of him actually & can see him developing into some player in time with the right coaching. It's just a case of how quickly & well he learns really.

I would also like to mirror this statement as i too have strayed into negativity on occasion... I think the sheer number of false dawns we have had to endure since those European cup winning days have taken their toll For the 1st time since those days i think we are finally, at the start of, the right road.

Embarrassing.. utterley embarrassing that today... getting hammered by a side newly promoted & bottom of the table. That has completely ruined the false dawn of the last 2 games.. Southampton are crud one of the worst teams in this division ... but well above our level it seems. Shocking!.. 4-1 by a poor newly promoted side.

I remember the last title win as i was a season ticket holder that year (how lucky was i ) & i have to say it was made even sweeter as we were so unfancied at the time. I remember it was all about Liverpool, Leeds & well erm Nott'm Forest & we were never really taken seriously until we beat Liverpool 2-0 with goals from Withe & Mortimer. Anyways it was just such a genuine feeling of a really good football team having simply won through good honest hard work great play & no little skill I cannot imagine how it would feel to "Buy" the title like Man City & Chelsea.. It did not impress me personally one bit. Ok it was dramatic in that last game with City & QPR but how can that be deemed anywhere close to the achievement of that Villa side in 80-81? Or the Everton win in the 80's? So i'm torn as of course it would be brilliant to witness but i really don't thing it counts for a lot when won in that way. Just picture a formula 1 race with 17 Go Karts & 3 Formula 1 cars in it... Well that is the equivalent of the Premier League right now & it's farcical.. The only achievement is the team who finishes 4th as the top 3 are only competing against themselves in my opinion..How boring quite frankly. No wonder they keep billing it as "the greatest season ever" & all that nonsense.. it's a deliberate marketing ploy as it is clear it is just a very tiresome 3 horse race.. if anything the relegation battle is more interesting than the Title race. So yeah i'd love us to win it of course i would but it would be sweeter to win it genuinely. Is that possible? ... If it was a level playing field yes but it isn't as those top 3 are also protected by the officials so actually no it's impossible. Winning the league is now finishing 4th in my eyes.