sheriffvilla Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Champions League or Premiership? As the RedScouse have shown, winning the Champions League can be done without winning the Premiership. My question is, if you had a choice, what would you rather win? I fancy most people will pick Champions League. But I say the Premiership. Yes that success for Liverpool was great, but I have far more respect for the ManUre, Chelsea and Arsenal sides of recent sides. I know it is a little dull but there is just something about doing the type of thing that United did yesterday - going away, not really playing well but pulling a result out of the bag. The choice between the two is very difficult, but I would feel more proud if we won the Premiership, I am sure of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrobo1 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 it is easier to win the CL that the premiership but frankly I don't care I want success and the form it takes is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premier League definately more of an achievement in my opinion and we would see a lot of wins along the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis_OWC_Legend Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premiership every day of the week, though Champions League wouldn't dis-appoint either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 25, 2007 Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2007 I just want a team to be proud of, we're getting there too Winning stuff is a bonus but in the spirit of the thing, I'd have to say the PL its harder to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant(aka_eddy) Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premiership for me. In theory you win the Premiership to prove your quality over a long period of time and show you are the best in your league. You then enter against the other top teams in Europe and try to prove you are the best there too. So in theory the Champions League is the more prestigious award as it shows you to be the best of Europe as well as the best in your own country. However it simply doesnt work like that with the current format of the CL. Entry from 4th place, winner can be performing badly domestically that year, league stages etc etc all mean that the winner rarely achieves it in the ideal circumstances. To me The Prem shows a greater reflection of the teams quality and endeavour and is therefore the more meaningful award. The CL is the feather in your cap once you've proved this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premier League without a doubt then build. We won the European Cup as champions of England. It's how the competition should be. THere's enough european leagues to create a champions league with the various countries, and there has and always will be surprises on the way. Liverpoops win is slightly hollow in my opinion, yes theywon it and I'd be punching the air IF we did it that way. Howver, as the General has said himelf, we aim to be champions not finish fourth and win. That is CLASS above SUBSTANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriffvilla Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 I fancy most people will pick Champions League. What an idiot! :roll: :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Very simply, to win the PL you HAVE to be the best. To win the CL, with it being a cup competition, you can have a little bit of luck and that has resulted in teams like Porto and Liverpool winning the competiton is recent years. The PL for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olejniker Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 The Premier League is about the depth and quality of your squad. If you're the best in that area, and have some luck along the way, you'll win it. But in Manure's case this season, they have been extremely lucky not just with injuries, but with on-the-pitch decisions. Scholes has been getting away with tons of yellow-card tackles, and Ronaldo has gotten away with I think about two dives this season, which allowed Manure to score the first goal. Do you really want to win something through these means? Do you honestly believe that Chelsea have been the best these past few seasons? NO. They have been effecient. NOT the best. But winning the Champions League is not about depth or luck. It's about tactics and quality. It's a much greater achievement I feel, winning the Champions League instead of the Premier League. It shows off the tactical acumen of your manager, and the quality of your first team. Just because you win the Premier League, doesn't make you the better team. Arsenal are much better than Manure, but they are languishing in third. Ultimately, I want Villa to win something because they got the better of the teams that they played, with superior tactics, and good players. Because the Champions League matches are played throughout the course of the season, MON would most of the time, have his first-choice squad at his disposal, and if our team manages to win it, it will be because our first team played better/smarter or in some extreme rare cases(were luckier) than the other teams. That's how I want to win a trophy. Not by scraping past matches, having lucky fluky ref decisions, or by having a thick squad of quality reserves. But by outsmarting and playing better than the teams that you encounter in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablopicasso Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 champions league for me... to say we have won it more than once, when others find it difficult to win once, would be superb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity-Tom Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premiership, no doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkvilla Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Champions league.... the hint is in the title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfcinwales Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 My question is, if you had a choice, what would you rather win An away match would be nice, 3 goals for, in a match, two wins on the trot, convincing performances, the belief we have a manager and squad capable of achieving a top 10 finish, all would suit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishjay Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 OT please and the Premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven843 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant(aka_eddy) Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 My question is, if you had a choice, what would you rather win An away match would be nice, 3 goals for, in a match, two wins on the trot, convincing performances, the belief we have a manager and squad capable of achieving a top 10 finish, all would suit me. Were you not getting enough attention today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiney Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Any trophy would be a start! It's been a long 11 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villab0y Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Premiership First. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yep Prem definitely, it's the Worlds top league not just Europe's - Although it would facilitate a springboard towards challenging for Euro glory, which would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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