Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Complete rubbish, dont sign. why is that rubbish? how many golas did bellamy score in a poor blackburn side last year. the facts are he can score goals (he might have a shit attitude) but mon doesnt take no crap. if he misses up he will be out like a shot. look at berger for example ive heard from various people he is an unsettler and look what mon has done to him. belleamy is a class player so if we sign him give him a chance. and stop saying defoe or keane spurs wont sell either of them. for me the likely players we will sign is either him or bent, and bent would be over 10m so iwould rather have bellamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby15 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Cameroon midfielder Achille Emana could be on his way to Aston Villa from Toulouse this summer. (NOTW) Anybody know anything about this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2fs87g pretty unimpressive really. On this clip he doesn't seem to have any power in his shot!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant(aka_eddy) Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Complete rubbish, dont sign. why is that rubbish? how many golas did bellamy score in a poor blackburn side last year. the facts are he can score goals (he might have a shit attitude) but mon doesnt take no crap. if he misses up he will be out like a shot. look at berger for example ive heard from various people he is an unsettler and look what mon has done to him. belleamy is a class player so if we sign him give him a chance. and stop saying defoe or keane spurs wont sell either of them. for me the likely players we will sign is either him or bent, and bent would be over 10m so iwould rather have bellamy I think the point is Demitri, that there are other players around who can contribute the goals that Bellamy can but without the drawbacks. It isnt as if he is available for a bargain price. I know i'd rather have £12 million, 23 year old Darren Bent with an excellent attitude, than £8 million soon to be 29 year old Craig Bellamy with a career history of dressing room upset and off field controvesy. In fact it isnt even a choice. Bellamy isnt cheap enough or young enough to be worth the gamble compared with the other options. If you look at the years of service they'll give then Bent is by far the cheaper option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 fair points grant but bellamy has the experience and has played at the best level, bent hasnt. i rate bent but i think 12m is way over the odds for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberVillan Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Cameroon midfielder Achille Emana could be on his way to Aston Villa from Toulouse this summer. (NOTW) Anybody know anything about this guy? He's an attacking midfielder, Camaroon international aged 25 and was at Valencia before he went to france, he's scored eight goals this season and has four assists, and judging from this goal he might be a snip :shock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwtwKcQMIc and one more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwRhXlxU1-g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant(aka_eddy) Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 fair points grant but bellamy has the experience and has played at the best level, bent hasnt. i rate bent but i think 12m is way over the odds for him In all honesty Dem, i wouldn't buy an attacker this year, well it would be Bent or no-one depending on whether he looked like he was going elsewhere or cheap. Moore and Gabby can do the business imo or at least warrant the chance to prove we dont need to spend £8-£12 million (depending on your tastes ) for that consistent scorer. Buying in another top striker will seriously impede that imo. Bent has proven himself now imo, you talk about Bellamy scoring goals in a poor Blackburn side... well look at the piss poor side that Bent has picked up a shedload of goals in. He could be a monster in a decent side. I think it depends alot on how much we have to spend as midfield and defence need some more bodies and quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 fair points grant but bellamy has the experience and has played at the best level, bent hasnt. i rate bent but i think 12m is way over the odds for him I rate bellamy and i think he would be a great signing. However i would also prefer Bent and i dont' think £12m is too much consdering how much we paid for young and how many bent has score, consistently and at a young age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 fair points grant but bellamy has the experience and has played at the best level, bent hasnt. i rate bent but i think 12m is way over the odds for him I rate bellamy and i think he would be a great signing. However i would also prefer Bent and i dont' think £12m is too much consdering how much we paid for young and how many bent has score, consistently and at a young age If it came down to a choice between Bent and Bellamy then i'd go for Bent. Then who knows in a few years time we could have Gabby, Cahill, Young, Moore and Bent representing England consistantly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 the pros and cons for going for bellamey or bent randy and co appear to like the family, tradition side of football. they appear to like people with honesty and integrity, who can represent their companies without bringing disrepute. who is going to be the better ambassador for aston villa? mr littleman angry bellamey, who courts controversy where ever he goes? who is now coming up to 29 years old and who hasnt consistantly hit more than 12 goals per season ever. or darren bent, club captain, younger, stronger and more versitle. darren bent record Overall career totals Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red Total (Club) 219 (28) 91 6 0 League 192 (19) 78 6 0 FA Cup 9 (2) 5 0 0 League Cup 13 (3) 7 0 0 European/Others 5 (4) 1 0 0 bellemy record Overall career totals Apps As sub Goals Yellow Red Total (Club) 345 (37) 119 54 2 League 276 (29) 92 42 1 FA Cup 12 (0) 5 3 0 League Cup 20 (3) 9 5 0 European/Others 37 (5) 13 4 1 both have decent records, however bellemy is the same sort of player we already have in moore and gabby, a fast pacey player who can score. we donthave a player who can play upfront on his own and still bang the goals in, darren bent is just that player. he has played for 2 teams, ipswich and charlton, both are shit, ipswich only finishing in the top 10 once, charlton didnt while he is there i think. bellemy has played for liverpool, newcastle, blackburn, norwich, celtic and coventry. you would expect him to have a far better goal record than bent as he has played with better players, in better teams with more attack minded players, however bents goal record is far better than bellemys. a no brainer for me really, the stats, the newspaper headlines, the team moral, the future, the longevity of bent compaired to bellemy, the image we want to portray. everything adds up to bent. i just hope we can get a player of his quality as i would expect newcastle, liverpool, spurz and arsenal to be some of the clubs fighting for this sort of quality in the summer. and looking at the bookings also although as a forward it isnt the main priority but darren bent has 6 yellow cards in 192 league games bellemy has 42 yellow cards in 276 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 why is that rubbish? how many golas did bellamy score in a poor blackburn side last year. the facts are he can score goals (he might have a shit attitude) but mon doesnt take no crap. if he misses up he will be out like a shot. look at berger for example ive heard from various people he is an unsettler and look what mon has done to him. belleamy is a class player so if we sign him give him a chance. and stop saying defoe or keane spurs wont sell either of them. for me the likely players we will sign is either him or bent, and bent would be over 10m so iwould rather have bellamy The fact is that he is a guy with troubles who disruptes the changing room and imo he ain't better than John, Gabby, or Luke anyway. He comes up witht he odd goal out of the ordinary, not a 20 goal a season striker. Haven't we learned from buying troublesome strikers from Liverpool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 this is a good debate bellamy or bent. the one benefit we have if mon chooses bellamy (which is the likely option) is mon has worked with him before, so he will know his strengths/weaknesses and to expect from bellamy in terms of attitude. bent would be a class signing but id expect the big guns to go for bent if he became available. i see young going to somewhere like united or possibly spurs should they sell a striker in the summer. bent is class so even if we paid over the odds for him it would still be great for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Liverpool striker Craig Bellamy has described allegations that he has no working relationship with manager Rafael Benitez as "complete garbage". It has been reported that the Welshman will leave Anfield this summer after a series of fallings out with Benitez. But Bellamy told the club website: "Rafa is the best coach I have worked with and I'm a better player for having worked with him. "That I have to waste time responding to these suggestions is nonsense." Bellamy hit the headlines in February after a training-camp bust-up with team-mate John Arne Riise - for which Benitez later publicly forgave the pair. If I do go on to manage at some point in the future he is the model I will use in my career Bellamy on Benitez However, it prompted speculation that Benitez could sell the 27-year-old at the end of the season, with Aston Villa linked with an £8m bid. But Bellamy insists he has a future at the club, adding: "If I do go on to manage at some point in the future he is the model I will use in my career. I can't make my respect for him any clearer than that. "I am even more disappointed that this has come up as we are approaching a massive game on Tuesday, the Champions League semi final against Chelsea. The reports are complete garbage." Here Does he really think he can manage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I'd just like to add, that if Bellamy did arrive at VP, but L Moore was sold either before or after Bellamys arrival id be very very dissapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrollo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 hasn't bellamy played for celtic ? - therefore he will get into the villa team , and stay there, at the expense of someone who hasn't - similar to Petrov over Davis - end result ? - Davis will probably leave villa - have we kept the better player ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Only time will tell... If we signed Bellamy, and Moore stayed, Id very very happy! Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davrocoogan Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 similar to Petrov over Davis - end result ? - Davis will probably leave villa - have we kept the better player ??? Petrov's better than Davis. Davis will never be a Premiership central midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFart Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I'd just like to add, that if Bellamy did arrive at VP, but L Moore was sold either before or after Bellamys arrival id be very very dissapointed.Not saying (maybe I did once) we don't need an extra striker but I'd rather just get some backup for Carew. As for Luke Moore and also Gabby, there must be any number of Premier clubs who'd give their right arm for either of them and I'd feel the same way as AvfcRigo82. Don't see how Bellamy would help things. It's elsewhere we need to strengthen the squad IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam100 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Correct me if i'm wrong but I think Strachan took Boruc to Celtic so it is incidental which club he plays for. it was martin o'neill who originally tried to sign him, then he left and strachan continued the deal. i'd take either bellamy or bent, but it will be bellamy we sign so we may as well get use to it IMO interesting to see robbie keane has 21 goals this season, just shows if you give a quality striker plenty of opportunities he will put the ball in the back of the net. judging on tevez's first season in the premiership, i think he could manage 20 goals in a season also, he's had alot of bad luck i.e when the ball hit the inside of the post today, or he could create a lot more goals for someone like gabby not that i think we wil sign him, but i just think he could well get near 20 goals in a season in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Very True old fart, If fulham sheff utd etc had either Gabby or L Moore it would be like a C Ronaldo to them!! We only need 1 more striker to give us 4! (Gabby, Carew Moore & *New Signing*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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