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Martinez for me. Second choice would be Brendan Rodgers.

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Martinez or Quique Flores. Just want to move out of the 1970's, that we've had to endure with O'neill and McLeish. Houllier had the right idea but changed too much too quickly and was just a complete

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stewiek2 Grand Master

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Yea i'd quite like to know Randy's movements

I'm not claiming to be ITK but I believe Randy is quite regular, every morning about 9 he has a morning shit whilst reading the red tops.

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This discussion is about people being ITK or not. I believe people who were ITK on OGS merely jumped the gun and it bit them on the ass in the last minute. That doesn't mean they made stuff up leading up to that point. And that's the key for me. They are still privvy to ITK stuff. They just should've held off on the '100% done' posts while it was still only 'highly likely'.

Spot on BOF, even Gazton was sure it was OGS....He also still thought it would be him when the papers were saying he is staying at Molde because he didn't want to move his family.

So something must have been said to all these ITK's to make them sure he was coming to Villa.

If I may fight my corner for a moment..

Personally, I hate the term "ITK". I don't claim to be "in the know". What I can say, with confidence, is that I hear stories from someone very much at the heart of AVFC. When this person tells me something, I make a very conscious decision to remove the emotion from what this person is telling me and then, if appropriate, report as much fact as possible to VT.

My history of these kinds of stories is, if I may say so, pretty strong. I don't remember exactly how much I've told VT but this person was spot on about the timing of Richard Dunne and Stephen Ireland signing for AVFC. He was spot on, so I said "Welcome Richard", and he was also spot on about the delay to RD signing on deadline day. When all around us were wringing their hands about the registration forms being delayed, he was absolutely confident that it was done on time and that was borne out.

With the Stephen Ireland deal, I told VT "Welcome Stephen" when it was complete and confirmed hours before it was made official. I was confident enough to do this because he rang me and physically put SI on the phone to me.

With all the upheaval of Gerard Houllier, I was privy to a lot of the internal strife. I took as much of the emotion out of it as possible and report back. Any emotion I added in was my own, and I was feeling a lot of different emotions about the whole Houllier situation.

With Darren Bent's signing, I heard about it after MYSTERYMAN (I think) but there are 2 people on this board who I met for a pint and to watch a match on TV. Tony and Paul will vouch for me, they knew about DB signing before it was even a sniff of a news story.

As for OGS, I was told that it was done. My source (another phrase I hate) had been told it was done. For me to come on here and say "Welcome Ole" wasn't a tough decision given the track record of this guy's information.

For one reason or another, it didn't work out. I don't yet know why, I will hopefully find out eventually what happened. If it's appropriate, I'll pass on that information too.

There's been many times I have heard news and chosen not to tell VT about it. We don't need to know it, and putting it into the public domain would do a lot more harm than good. It would also lead a very definite trail back to the source of the information, so I keep it to myself. That will continue, as will any bits of relevant news that I pass on.

Am I embarrassed about being wrong? Not in the slightest. I give info on here in good faith. What anybody does after that info, or how they choose to bet their money based on what some bloke on the internet says, is up to them.

If people don't want to believe me, that's their right. I absolutely accept that "some bloke on the internet" is more likely to be a spoofer than a genuine conduit of information. Just don't call me a liar, I don't like that :)

I sypathise with you must admit after the AM debacle and me going off from a respected source but not the main one I got slated and to be honest I deserved it .

The DB deal was 2 weeks in the making pretty much the same as Charlie Adam who rang Gary Mac asking to come but I didn't post that part of it as I wasn't sure at the time it was right . It was right but as we know Holloway did his job on it and then Liverpool came into the fray .

The danger is posting everything you hear Julie B is aware of the same rumour as me about Moyes but the source isn't strong enough for me to commit to posting about it . I also can't see it either :!:

The reason we post is we try to tell other Villa fans what we ourselves would want to know and even then you get accused of all sorts .

It's a no win but have to say you have been right a lot of the time especially over Ireland

I actually respect the information that Gazton and yourself divulge and am fully aware that you need to protect the source.

I myself was well close to the NRC v MON contretemps and was briefed from one source of the events. I am well aware that in these cases folk will want to take sides despite being unaware of any other source of information, I am equally aware one side will also deem themselves the victim, however you divulge the information as you receive it in good faith and you get castigated in some quarters.....or you get the ridiculous comment like " prove it" or divulge your source.

as you quite rightly say...you release the information to genuine villa fans as a source of info whether they value it is up to them.

You can usually tell when folk are spoofing... you and Gazton don't strike me as such.

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Oh dear we have a bout of "simplistic football fan syndrome" going on here..it makes me cringe...

OGS

Laudrup

Laursen LOL

It seems good player = good manager on this forum.

Laudrup wasn't a good player, he was one of the best ever.

He also has had success in the 2nd best league in the world, La Liga, which is also the most technical league.

OGS has had success, albeit in a much smaller league. I agree with you about Laursen.

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Another 2.5k waiting to back Rodgers. That one is a done deal imo. OGS never saw money like that come in.

Could be a very shrewd appointment for Liverpool especially with Louis Van Gaal as DOF if those rumours are correct.

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Another 2.5k waiting to back Rodgers. That one is a done deal imo. OGS never saw money like that come in.

Could be a very shrewd appointment for Liverpool especially with Louis Van Gaal as DOF if those rumours are correct.

Hes 1-3 on - thats nothing compared to OGS odds at one stage (for villa)

I only use odds checker - but how do you know another £2.5k has gone on rodgers to pool ?

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Oh dear we have a bout of "simplistic football fan syndrome" going on here..it makes me cringe...

OGS

Laudrup

Laursen LOL

It seems good player = good manager on this forum.

I think it's more to do with the fact that Laudrup is a good manager who gets his teams to play attacking football. He proved this in La Liga.

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Another 2.5k waiting to back Rodgers. That one is a done deal imo. OGS never saw money like that come in.

Could be a very shrewd appointment for Liverpool especially with Louis Van Gaal as DOF if those rumours are correct.

Hes 1-3 on - thats nothing compared to OGS odds at one stage (for villa)

I only use odds checker - but how do you know another £2.5k has gone on rodgers to pool ?

http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=105750303&ex=1&origin=MRL

The lay side is the money to back. Click on the names to see the money traded. OGS was a small market and there were no big chunks like there has been today with Rodgers.

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Is the reason why Grazton said we wouldnt hear anything to July is because he is a manager at the Euro's? For example a certain Joachim Loew

My understanding (Gazton please feel free to say if incorrect) is that Gazton himself wouldn't have any further info until July ie his source is away, rather than the club not making any moves until July..

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OK guys (and girls) - never mind who you want.......who do you think it will be ?

....For me......Southgate.

That isn't funny

Sorry but thats who I think - Lerner had his fingers burnt appointing a bluenose - so the attraction of ex villian is there - he's young - not the aggressive shouter that lerner seems to dislike.

Not saying thats who I want - but that would be who i think it will be.

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OK guys (and girls) - never mind who you want.......who do you think it will be ?

....For me......Southgate.

That isn't funny

Sorry but thats who I think - Lerner had his fingers burnt appointing a bluenose - so the attraction of ex villian is there - he's young - not the aggressive shouter that lerner seems to dislike.

Not saying thats who I want - but that would be who i think it will be.

If you had to choose though Grayson or Southgate, which one?

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OK guys (and girls) - never mind who you want.......who do you think it will be ?

....For me......Southgate.

That isn't funny

Sorry but thats who I think - Lerner had his fingers burnt appointing a bluenose - so the attraction of ex villian is there - he's young - not the aggressive shouter that lerner seems to dislike.

Not saying thats who I want - but that would be who i think it will be.

If you had to choose though Grayson or Southgate, which one?

Southgate

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