PussEKatt Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 As the team sports are a matter of elimination,does the team that finishes 4th get a medal ? Cause you come down to the last 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Gray skies Not like you to use American spelling... Snigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Greene, and Idowu will not get gold, but we will see. I agree there are some cycling golds to come. As for Lewis being on drugs, well that would make him the biggest hypocrite of all time. He was ALWAYS on about how they need to eradicate it from the sport, constantly pointing the finger at Flo Jo, Ben Johnson etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 double post - stupid cheap tablet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Lewis tested positive for stimulants at the 1988 US trials but was given a warning and the results were hushed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2012 Greene, and Idowu will not get gold, but we will see. I agree there are some cycling golds to come. As for Lewis being on drugs, well that would make him the biggest hypocrite of all time. He was ALWAYS on about how they need to eradicate it from the sport, constantly pointing the finger at Flo Jo, Ben Johnson etc. You're probably right. Greene won't get gold and with Idowu it all depends on his fitness, but I suspect he won't. But they still have a chance. As for Lewis, watch "The Race that Shocked the World". It was a BBC documentary about the 1988 100metres at the Olympics. Basically, as I said, everyone was on drugs. Johnson was just the one that got caught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Lewis tested positive for stimulants at the 1988 US trials but was given a warning and the results were hushed up. I would like your top 5 sprinters with justifications please. I dont mean to hijack this Olympic thread with this one subject, but I am just interested in your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2012 My top 5 sprinters would probably have been in the race last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 My top 5 sprinters would probably have been in the race last night. Of all time? So no Maurice Greene in your top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Incidentally if forum members think this top sprinters of all time debate is getting in the way of this thread, I can start a new topic on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2012 My top 5 sprinters would probably have been in the race last night. Of all time? So no Maurice Greene in your top 5. Well top 4 anyway. Because they're the 4 fastest men of all time. From memory, Greene scrapes in at number 5, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Usain Bolt is now officially the best 100 metre sprinter of all time. Here is my top 5 based on championship medals, longevity and personal best times. 1. Bolt 2. Lewis 3. Greene 4. Bailey 5. Christie Anyone agree/disagree :?: I'd remove Lewis and Christie form the list purely for their (alleged) use of performance enhancing drugs Edit : added an "alleged" but on reflection I'm not sure it's required seeing as both athletes tested positive Carl Lewis on drugs? Are you sure? I would be very surprised by that especially as he was so outspoken on the issue of drugs in sport. He failed 3 drugs tests during the 88 US trails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 But when it comes to top sprinters of all time, it is not just the personal best that is important. I think Olympic and world championship medals is more important. For example Asafa Powell has a pb of 9.72, Maurice Greenes is 9.79. But surely Maurice Greene with his Olympic 100m gold, and 97, 99 and 2001 world championship golds in the 100m is the better sprinter out of the 2 bearing in mind Powell has never even got a gold or silver in a major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Did anyone notice the girl who went sprawling in the 400 hurdles semi final last night was called Stambleova? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Lewis was never exposed because of his status. You have to question why any adult athlete wears braces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Bolt, Owens, Hayes , Lewis, Morrow. You could swap Hines for any of the latter 3. All changed the common perception of the body type and technique you needed to win the 100m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 6, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2012 Owens gets it for me, just for giving the big "**** you" to Hitler (not to mention white supremacists in the US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Bolt, Owens, Hayes , Lewis, Morrow. You could swap Hines for any of the latter 3. All changed the common perception of the body type and technique you needed to win the 100m. So you criticise my list but you have no Maurice Greene. Olympic champion in the 100m in 2000, plus 3 world championship golds in a row (97, 99 and 2001). As well as over 40 sub tens. He may not of changed the common conception of the body type needed to win, but when it came to winning titles and winning under pressure when it mattered, he was the man. In addition to this, he was not involved in any drugs scandals either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Your list was drivel, that's why I criticised it. Greene was a great sprinter but did not have nearly the same impact on the sport that the others I mentioned did. Therefore it's pretty easy to not include him in the top 5. All the others won gold so you have to look at other factors. In the build up to this year's games, they still were talking about Owens in 36, Lewis in 84 and Hayes in 64. I didn't see one mention of Greene in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 My list was not drivel. I believe if you asked Michael Johnson for his top 5 of all time, he would say Bolt, Owens, Lewis, Greene and I am not sure about who else. Basically my critieria for judging the best sprinters of all time is different to yours. I think Gold medals in the major championships is the most important factor. Followed by pb and sub 10 times and then longevity, how long they managed to stay at the top of the tree. Your criteria is different. But to call my list as drivel is ridiculous. In the build up to these games people were not talking about Hayes 64 at all. Where did you get this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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