Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I just want this season to end. It is getting worse by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i know people are looking at the worst-case scenario because we aren't usually in this position and so they are scared. But if you look at it objectively, not as a Villa fan, we are still the major outsiders to get relegated. For example, look at the odds at all the bookies, they are roughly the same at all the bookies: Blackburn - 1/5 QPR - 1.3/1 Bolton - 1.5/1 Wigan - 3/1 Aston Villa - 5/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philgetaway Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Last night was must win, a real relegation six pointer, so what did we do. Bombard Bolton, like a Sunday League game. No finesse, no game plan beyond get it forward to Heskey. For a while, it looked like it might just work, but by half time it was looking like what it really was, desperation. . Very Much THIS .... One of the few times we played football we scored. The rest was lump it to Heskey and hope it drops to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think all 6 bottom teams will lose this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i know people are looking at the worst-case scenario because we aren't usually in this position and so they are scared. But if you look at it objectively, not as a Villa fan, we are still the major outsiders to get relegated. For example, look at the odds at all the bookies, they are roughly the same at all the bookies: Blackburn - 1/5 QPR - 1.3/1 Bolton - 1.5/1 Wigan - 3/1 Aston Villa - 5/1 The bookies dont watch us as closely. If they did they would know how horrendous we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 http://thepremierleagueowl.com/2012/04/25/why-we-should-all-hope-that-aston-villa-get-relegated/? Why we should all hope that Aston Villa get relegated. What Randy Lerner has created at Villa Park is horrifying. A football club devoid of any ambition, who are content to simply exist in the Premier League. It’s an awful reality for the fans, and to be charged to watch that team amounts to a mugging. From the moment Alex McLeish was appointed, everybody should’ve known what was coming next – this is a managerial Grim Reaper; wherever he goes relegation becomes a threat. Winning trophies in the two-team league north of the border doesn’t count, McLeish has nothing on his footballing CV that qualifies him to manage a club of this size. “**** of McLeish, the Villa is ours” sang the home support in the second city last night, and they’re right. The analogy with this club, is of a hotel shutting down for the winter and putting a skeleton staff in charge, with the hope that nothing goes wrong. McLeish is the caretaker, dour and under-skilled, given a job that nobody else really wanted. If Randy Lerner succeeds with this type of scaling back, then it creates a template for other sides in the leage – ie. you don’t have to compete, you just to exist and pick up the cheque. It’s an insult to the fans and to the game, because it’s first and foremost a spectator sport – but yet, Villa are behaving like a bankruptcy-threatened company. It’s Randy Lerner’s obligation to put a team on the pitch who do justice to the fans that pay their wages, not to just ‘do the best we can with what we’ve got’. This is a proud football club with a great set of fans and a famous stadium, and between them, Lerner and McLeish are turning it into a laughing-stock. If Villa go down, which looking at the fixture list appears plausible, it will serve as a warning for any other club owner who tries this approach. For the fans you would feel desperately sorry, but it would be for the greater good. Slashing your wage bill, replacing your best players with kids, and hoping that nobody notices is not a way to run a a Premier League team – and relegation would ultimately prove that. Randy Lerner should be told this: if you’re not willing or able to compete in this league, then sell-up to somebody that is – because all he’s doing at the moment is taking advantage of the fan’s loyalty. McLeish has the ‘full support of the board’ does he? That says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TezzRexx Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 People are talking about him having a depleted squad due to injuries, but the fact is that when he had a full squad, we:- * Couldn't score goals. Top English goalscorer struggled to get anything at his feet. * Squandered leads when we were the (marginally) better team. 3 points turned into 1 against QPR away, QPR at home, Wolves at home, Newcastle at home, Swansea away, Everton at home. We could have been on 14 more points than we are currently but McLeish's alleged defensive quality's couldn't help us hang on to leads, and again we couldn't score goals to put poor teams away. * Conceded stupid. Too many times this season, we managed to stop teams playing their football, but still let them score goals. * Played dire football. Couldn't complete simple passes, long ball football with a short-ish team, poor corners. All stuff that SHOULD be sorted out in 9 months of "coaching". * The team couldn't be bothered to play. We rolled over far too many times this season against the bigger teams. Spurs, Pool at home, Man U at home. The list goes one. Sadly, we were resigned to relegation the second McLeish and Grant were appointed. The fact we have 36 points to begin with is really, a minor miracle. The writing for me was already on the wall back when we played Derby in a friendly, were practically all of the above happened. The quicker we reside ourselves to the fact we're already relegated, the better. If we do stay up, it'll be a pure mathematical miracle were the teams below us are slightly shitter than us, or considerably unlucky. Cheers Alex, it's good to know you're good at something. Relegating teams from relatively strong positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TezzRexx Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 i know people are looking at the worst-case scenario because we aren't usually in this position and so they are scared. But if you look at it objectively, not as a Villa fan, we are still the major outsiders to get relegated. For example, look at the odds at all the bookies, they are roughly the same at all the bookies: Blackburn - 1/5 QPR - 1.3/1 Bolton - 1.5/1 Wigan - 3/1 Aston Villa - 5/1 It was 15/1 to one about a week and a half ago. Book makers odds don't mean much at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The only thing in our favour is we have position in the table and points on the board, that is why our odds at relegation are longer. However they are shortening rapidly with every passing game as the teams below keep picking up unlikely victories while we stumble towards the line like a drunken man on the way home after a particularly heavy night. The problem is I don't see us making it home, but rather passing out on the pavement in a pile of sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If you look at our form over the past 5 games, we have actually picked up 3 draws. It probably quite realistic to expect at least one more 0-0 bore draw, which should mean we'll stumble over the finish line. hate to say it ender but looking at your posts you are clearly in denial. At best we have a 50/50 chance of survival and that is only down to the fixtures QPR and Blackburn have. Villa will get destroyed by Spurs at home and despite us probably playing better away from home than at home this season WBA are clearly a better team than us at the moment and Norwich away has proven to be a difficult fixture even for the best teams this season. Nil points for us which means QPR need a point at Chelsea (who must be absolutely shattered at the moment) , a draw at home to Stoke and avoid getting beat by more than 2 goals at home to Man City. We'll do the rest for them as we get battered by Tottenham to wipe out any goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've already accepted relegation and am ready to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I've already accepted relegation and am ready to move on. Why give up already. 17th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Ive actually gone past caring now as to whether we stay up or go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Too many people giving up already. I just hope the players havent. 3 big games, 2 points is all that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think we all agreed on that Aston Villa was to big a club for McLeish to manage, well thanks to Mr Lerner and his cronies we are now after less than a year under McLeish a club pretty much the right size for him. They have alienated a big part of the fanbase, scared away 25% of the people who usually attend the homegames and made us unattractive to any player with any ambition what so ever. It's like watching someone getting robbed without any possibility to stop it. Other than our "Proud history" we are now nothing more than Nottingham, Leeds or dare i say it Birmingham. So job well done Mr Lerner, what ever will you do to top this? May I suggest selling Villa Park and pocket the money yourself move the team to St Andrews, changing the kit to red/white & blue and then give McLeish and Heskey new 5-year contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I It's like watching someone getting raped without any possibility to stop it. Dont over react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Too many people giving up already. I just hope the players havent. 3 big games, 2 points is all that is needed. The players look like they gave up weeks ago!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 No the players havent given up, some of them are not good enough for this level, and some have no confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 No the players havent given up, some of them are not good enough for this level, and some have no confidence. So either way were ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I It's like watching someone getting raped without any possibility to stop it. Dont over react. Ok fair enough i'll remove it, i don't want to offend anyone (other than Lerner and McLeish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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