Mantis Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I've just thought of a good idea for a banner "Let's be realistic, you're not good enough McLeish". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I've just thought of a good idea for a banner "Let's be realistic, you're not good enough McLeish". I like it. And what about: "We should be there pushing for Europe" Faulkner, 25/11/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 "Proud History, No Future" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 How about, "at least TRY to win..." Or "only 90 minutes left to hold on to this point" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 the best one is still "It's not where about you're from Alex, it's about where you're taking us" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefandj Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Agree Zog rarely runs down the line He's generally cutting in when he's got the ball Because he's instructed to keep the play narrow............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Black_AVFC Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Agree Zog rarely runs down the line He's generally cutting in when he's got the ball Because he's instructed to keep the play narrow............... and here is where the problem lies.... I appreciate what people are saying about Downing/Young - they were wingers by trade. But often you would see Young cut back on his right foot, and the same for Downing as he was left-footed. N'Zogbia has incredible ability when he is allowed to roam. I watched him single-handedly rip West Ham to shreds in Wigans 3-2 win on the penultimate game of the season. It was one of the best performances I have seen from an attacking player in many years, so obviously I was delighted when we made our move for him and I felt at £9m it was a snip. We all know what has happened since regarding N'Zog. He has the reputation of falling out with people and dividing dressing rooms. I can only conclude that like our team as a whole, he is restricted to what he can and can't do - often finding himself having to track back. Ireland is a quality player and when he is on the ball he looks a class act. But again, McLeish has 'reportedly' had a spat with him and his performances have once again took a nose-dive. I'm not sure where the club go from here. I am hoping that over the Summer a lot of the dead wood are cleared and fresh, new faces - with an aim to do well, are brought to the club. Like everybody else, my major concern has to be McLeish and Grant. The tactics are so rigid that any flair we did have has gone straight out of the window and any new players coming to the club are going to be expected to play the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It depresses me that people keep throwing the name Martinez about I mean WTF, is this how far we've fallen Who are you supporting this week CI? Why do you ask the same question every 5 pages, are you a goldfish? No are you a blowfish Anyway this thread is all about repetition, we've got nearly 700 pages of it and your contribution is significant Anyway Martinez ? I mean come on, is that how far we've fallen You asked the same question three or four pages ago and got the reasons why Martinez offers something McLeish does not. Wigans current position in the league is irrelevant to me, as I can see where Villa could potentially be in 3-5 years. You forget who your backing and why every three pages so i dont expect you to see past the end of your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Agree Zog rarely runs down the line He's generally cutting in when he's got the ball Because he's instructed to keep the play narrow............... Left footer on right wing cutting in shocker?? Its naturally going to happen, players will always favour their stronger foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cule4life Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Love the quote above "I can see where Villa could be in 3 years or so" HONESTLY championship bound and deservedly so for the stupidity.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Love the quote above "I can see where Villa could be in 3 years or so" HONESTLY championship bound and deservedly so for the stupidity.. It's almost as if you want us to get relegated :| . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 How about, "at least TRY to win..." Or "only 90 minutes left to hold on to this point" How about, **** off back to Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm not going to debate Martinez anymore It's just a ridiculous suggestion We are Aston Villa FC not Coventry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To be honest, I don"t think we will be changing our manager anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To be honest, I don"t think we will be changing our manager anytime soon A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you. Today I am not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To be honest, I don"t think we will be changing our manager anytime soon A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you. Today I am not so sure. What makes you say that ? I wish I was that optomistick, dont forget Lerner has had to pay MON off and he wants to cut costs so I cant see him paying McStupid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To be honest, I don"t think we will be changing our manager anytime soon A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you. Today I am not so sure. What makes you say that ? I wish I was that optomistick, dont forget Lerner has had to pay MON off and he wants to cut costs so I cant see him paying McStupid off. I think that the manager's position is becoming untenable. An element of our support have been on his back from day one, because of where he came from, but he did know what he was getting himself into. I have never bought the "no money" thing. He, like Houllier, has had plenty of money to spend, if you look at it in isolation, rather than comparing it with the squillions that the Messiah had at his disposal. Besides that a manager takes a job to manage the players at his disposal, not to come in and replace a whole team. But my biggest sense of disquiet is that he has sent our team out against an out of sorts Manure and Citee, and a positively crap Liverpool, with the belief that they can't win, something that he repeated at Arsenal last week. Much as I dislike the Messiah, he would never have done that. Saturday is a watershed for me. If we lie down from the first minute, then I think that he may as well be kicked out straight away. Either way, I cannot see him being here for the start of next season. And I am someone who wanted to give him a chance..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Depends what performance criteria / targets McLeish has been set Didn't Faulkner publicly state Europe at the start of te season ? Lerner says nothing so **** knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Of corse we will lie down on saturday,he has already said that we cant expect to beat the elite teams. For my part I would rather see us lose 0-5 and go down fighting than watch us defend for 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 To be honest, I don"t think we will be changing our manager anytime soon A couple of months ago I would have agreed with you. Today I am not so sure. What makes you say that ? I wish I was that optomistick, dont forget Lerner has had to pay MON off and he wants to cut costs so I cant see him paying McStupid off. I think that the manager's position is becoming untenable. An element of our support have been on his back from day one, because of where he came from, but he did know what he was getting himself into. I have never bought the "no money" thing. He, like Houllier, has had plenty of money to spend, if you look at it in isolation, rather than comparing it with the squillions that the Messiah had at his disposal. Besides that a manager takes a job to manage the players at his disposal, not to come in and replace a whole team. But my biggest sense of disquiet is that he has sent our team out against an out of sorts Manure and Citee, and a positively crap Liverpool, with the belief that they can't win, something that he repeated at Arsenal last week. Much as I dislike the Messiah, he would never have done that. Saturday is a watershed for me. If we lie down from the first minute, then I think that he may as well be kicked out straight away. Either way, I cannot see him being here for the start of next season. And I am someone who wanted to give him a chance..... Pretty much how I see it. Not giving it a shot against the so-called elite teams is unacceptable, and frankly quite stupid on his part. For he himself pulled an excellent win and performance out of the bag against Chelsea away. His overt cautiousness and negative approach to games simply shouldn't be tolerated. And I personally think starting Heskey in midfield for a dozen games or so when we had absolutely no injury crisis in that area in itself is a sackable offence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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