macandally Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here Defending McLeish and not wanting Villa Boas, that must be symptomatic of some form of loss of mental faculties surely?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here Defending McLeish and not wanting Villa Boas, that must be symptomatic of some form of loss of mental faculties surely?? One of many effects McLeish has on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here To be honest I'd rather if we get rid of McLeish we went for someone else than Boas. He's had arguably one good season in a very short managerial career having inherited a very good Porto side. He's shown at Chelsea when something needs turning around in difficult circumstances he's not exactly excelled and has done a comparatively as poor a job as McLeish at Villa. He's essentially a clever bloke that loves writing and talking tactics but he really hasnt covered himself in glory. We are frustrated with McLeishs decisions well the Chelsea fans have been just as frustrated with his. One good season where he won everything available to him? The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, moving on players who are on the downslope of their careers but still think they are world class and rebuilding for the next generaation. All under the eyes of the worlds most impatient chairman. I would love AVB here and it somes up the Villa fans that some are saying he wouldnt be welcome here. (Funnily enough, the "Give McLeish a chance" people too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here Defending McLeish and not wanting Villa Boas, that must be symptomatic of some form of loss of mental faculties surely?? where have i defended McLeish Other than to say his record is not far adrift of MON's after 27 games, albeit under much worserer conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Post match interview: "We have lacked ruthlessness at times this season". Only one man at the club has lacked ruthlessness and that is our owner!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I wouldn't really compare the two seasons. Last season was quite eventful to say the least and I think any manager would've struggled (although perhaps not to such an extent). Lets not forget Houllier had Downing and Young and the best part of 30 mill to spunk in the January window and managed the club for 28 league games achieving 33 points.McLeish after 27 games as an identical record to what Houllier had at the same stage. In all fairness its comparing two managers who either did or are doing shit jobs. One just had better players and more money to spend whilst doing it. One played football, the other the very antithesis of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Since the start of this year we have only won one game (in Jan).. since then we haven't won a game in Feb nor so far in March.. (we have played 8 since the start of this year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here To be honest I'd rather if we get rid of McLeish we went for someone else than Boas. He's had arguably one good season in a very short managerial career having inherited a very good Porto side. He's shown at Chelsea when something needs turning around in difficult circumstances he's not exactly excelled and has done a comparatively as poor a job as McLeish at Villa. He's essentially a clever bloke that loves writing and talking tactics but he really hasnt covered himself in glory. We are frustrated with McLeishs decisions well the Chelsea fans have been just as frustrated with his. One good season where he won everything available to him? The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, moving on players who are on the downslope of their careers but still think they are world class and rebuilding for the next generaation. All under the eyes of the worlds most impatient chairman. I would love AVB here and it somes up the Villa fans that some are saying he wouldnt be welcome here. (Funnily enough, the "Give McLeish a chance" people too!) Yeah you're right, I guess that just "somes" some Villa fans up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 He did ok at Porto, wow That's a bit like steering Celtic to a top 3 finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Since the start of this year we have only won one game (in Jan).. since then we haven't won a game in Feb nor so far in March.. (we have played 8 since the start of this year)In the league this calendar year we've won 1, drawn 4 and lost 3. Diabolical. Makes me worry to be honest because it was after new year where we started to improve last season where as this season we're just getting worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lose to Fulham and he will be gone IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here To be honest I'd rather if we get rid of McLeish we went for someone else than Boas. He's had arguably one good season in a very short managerial career having inherited a very good Porto side. He's shown at Chelsea when something needs turning around in difficult circumstances he's not exactly excelled and has done a comparatively as poor a job as McLeish at Villa. He's essentially a clever bloke that loves writing and talking tactics but he really hasnt covered himself in glory. We are frustrated with McLeishs decisions well the Chelsea fans have been just as frustrated with his. One good season where he won everything available to him? The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, moving on players who are on the downslope of their careers but still think they are world class and rebuilding for the next generaation. All under the eyes of the worlds most impatient chairman. I would love AVB here and it somes up the Villa fans that some are saying he wouldnt be welcome here. (Funnily enough, the "Give McLeish a chance" people too!) Yeah you're right, I guess that just "somes" some Villa fans up though. aaaannnnnddd sleep! Your analness never ceases to amaze............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lose to Fulham and he will be gone IMHOSame. There's no way he's surviving that. I hope we win though. Just not a draw please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Re AVB not sure he'd come not sure I'd want him here To be honest I'd rather if we get rid of McLeish we went for someone else than Boas. He's had arguably one good season in a very short managerial career having inherited a very good Porto side. He's shown at Chelsea when something needs turning around in difficult circumstances he's not exactly excelled and has done a comparatively as poor a job as McLeish at Villa. He's essentially a clever bloke that loves writing and talking tactics but he really hasnt covered himself in glory. We are frustrated with McLeishs decisions well the Chelsea fans have been just as frustrated with his. One good season where he won everything available to him? The Chelsea job is a poisoned chalice, moving on players who are on the downslope of their careers but still think they are world class and rebuilding for the next generaation. All under the eyes of the worlds most impatient chairman. I would love AVB here and it somes up the Villa fans that some are saying he wouldnt be welcome here. (Funnily enough, the "Give McLeish a chance" people too!) Yeah you're right, I guess that just "somes" some Villa fans up though. aaaannnnnddd sleep! Your analness never ceases to amaze............. Too easy :bonk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lose to Fulham and he will be gone IMHO Only if he is daft enough to walk - he won't get the tin tack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lose to Fulham and he will be gone IMHOSame. There's no way he's surviving that. I hope we win though. Just not a draw please. He's not getting away with a loss I fear it will yet another draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Of course it'll be a draw. He knows a lose would crank up the pressure tenfold and probably cost him his job, and since this is Alex McLeish we're talking about there's no way he's going to go for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The Bolton game is the one that will seal his fate IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lose to Fulham and he will be gone IMHO If a loss to Fulham would guarantee that he gets the sack then I would take a loss to Fulham no problem. After all, it is only 1 point less than we can expect anyway and if most people are to be believed there is enough shit below us in the league to ensure that we don't get relegated this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I wouldn't really compare the two seasons. Last season was quite eventful to say the least and I think any manager would've struggled (although perhaps not to such an extent). Lets not forget Houllier had Downing and Young and the best part of 30 mill to spunk in the January window and managed the club for 28 league games achieving 33 points.McLeish after 27 games as an identical record to what Houllier had at the same stage. In all fairness its comparing two managers who either did or are doing shit jobs. One just had better players and more money to spend whilst doing it.Let's not also forget that Houllier didn't have Bent for half a season and only took over in late September after a very turbulent summer for the club. The only signing we made that entire transfer window was Stephen Ireland. Add in the ridiculous injury crisis and it's clear to see that it's more than just a case of Houllier having more money and a better squad. Oh yeah, and the football wasn't absolutely shit all the time and we actually tried to attack in some games. There were so many games last season where we deserved more than we got. How many times can you say that for this season? If anything it's the opposite. The only area where McLeish has had it worse is money. Everything else he's had it better or the same. I reckon we can do all the comparisons we like.... but ultimately nothing will change the fact that McCleish is not a good football manager. He is defensively minded, his tactics are poor, his substitutions are poor, his signings are poor, his press conferences are poor, his CV is poor. Anyone who can get Rangers to finish 3rd in a two horse race is poor The man is not good enough to manage Aston Villa, PERIOD. McCleish OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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