Maradona10 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hughes would be a safe but very boring appointment, i wouldnt be delighted or furious at this appointment if it were to happen but id expect to just be a average premierleaue team finishing between 10th and 7th. Wouldnt expect many top class players wanting to be part of that really. Ashley and Downing would certainly agree with the last part :winkold: I Hughes could be quite succesful with us, if given the time, and heres the clincher, the funds to build his own dynasty. Thats the ype of manager he is. Luckily, i cant see him coming to a club that has no other ambition of finishing between 10th and 7th. I think he feels he has a lot to prove to some certain people a short distance up the M6! Having said that, Sparky was a winner as a player, and he will want to be a winner as a manager, its in the guys make-up. If he comes, back him. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorski Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 There are Managers that will be happy at their clubs;Good salaries already, great relationship with Chairman,Board,fans & players plus happy in the the area that they live,we just cannot assume that they will want to give it all up to manage us,We are not the team we were 30 years ago and despite our magnificient history we are not that attractive a proposition to everyone as we would like to think. My worry about Ancelloti is Spurs will need a new Manager in 12 moths time,he would jump at the chance of going there. Hughes or Moyes for me as I can see possibly see Benitez becoming another Houllier situation popularity wise that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Steve Bruce was a winner as a player, does that mean he's a winner as a manager? Let's get some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siminjo Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 i just have one question: is e=mc2? No... e=mc^2 ahhh thx =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Gerard Houllier was a winner as a manager but what did he do for us? Hughes is a better manager than Steve Bruce and thats a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil. Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Steve Bruce was a winner as a player, does that mean he's a winner as a manager? Let's get some perspective. He's not a bad manager! The more i think about it the more its becoming clear its gonna be Hughes. Trying to get Moyes would be a long drawn out process and i think it would be very difficult to get him. The only other one i think it might be is Jol. I've thought about Rafa and although he's got a good cv i dont think he would work at Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 mark hughes took over europa league finalists fulham fulham who had finished 7th on 53 points qualifying for the europa league in 2008/09 fulham who then made it to the final of the europa league at the expense of the premier league finish but still managed to get 12th on 46 points the season before hughes took over since he took over fulham and people talk of what a great job he has done , they finished 8th, 1 point above us, so we have a disasterous season and are shit but 'sparky' finishes 1 point and place above us and had a good season? hmmmmm? we went the season having 3 different managers from 1 week before play starts to christmas, all with different styles of play and ideas on how to motivate players, a massive injury list meaning we played 5 youth/ reserve players for several games, senior players causing disruption and in-fighting, others refusing to play or acting in such a manner we try to keep them away from the club. a season to forget in a hurry... and he finishes just 1 point above us? they had 11 players who played at least 22 league games for them last season , which shows a stability in the team and also injuries did little to disrupt the core of the team we had 8 which includes disruptive players like dunne and a player playing out of position in luke young we used 32 players in the league last season, they used 26 again showing we had issues with keeping a regular side for a number of reasons. for blackburn huighes record 2004/5 = 15th in league we finished 10th 2005/6 = 6th in league we finished 16th 2006/7 = 10th in league we finished 11th 2007/8 = 7th in league we finished 6th so pretty much the same as DOL and MON early reign at our club 2008/09 at man city with 100 million spent on players they finished 10th, WORSE than man city finished the year previously under SGE while who ever is appointed gets my support until they make a **** up of the job, i would prefer someting more inspiring than 'sparky' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 One thing about Mark hughes - hes never done a bad job!! He has never done a good job either. A draw specialist. :yawn: First year with Blackburn he took them to 6th place and the League Cup final - at a time when they had little or no money to spend. In 18 months at Man City, he took them to the fifth (at the time he was ousted), having formed the core of the team that qualified for the Champions League a year later and won the FA Cup. Took Fulham to 8th with a limited playing squad, little money to spend, no pre-season (notice how he never used that as an excuse throughout last season?) and a goal difference of +6 with arguably his two best attacking players missing for a large portion of the season. And he's never done a good job? Opinions are one thing - ignoring the facts are another. Blackburn - He didn't win Blackburn the cup. Got worse in the club as time went on. Man City - We were above his team when we he left and he was on a much higher budget. Fulham - The same Fulham who got to the Europa League final the season before? It may come to shock, but they've got a solid group of players. Opinions are opinions like I've just proved. He's done an overall average job. Nothing too shocking, but nothing too spectacular either. Blackburn - when he left they had finished 7th having reached three further cup semi-finals and attracting the attentions of ambitious Man City who sacked Eriksson in order to appoint him. Man City - we may have been above City at the time but we certainly didn't finish above them, and most City fans would admit his sacking was harsh by a board. Had put a lot of the right things in place for Mancini to build upon - results since bear this out. Fulham - finished 12th in the league under Hodgson before he left. Hughes took them up four places at the first attempt, a much more accurate barometer of consistency than a one-off cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Fulham and us are different situations though, they've had zamora out all season pretty much. We have a 20 a goal season striker and an overall better squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 comparing Fulhams season to ourselves this season is ridiculous and just doesnt work. Did Fulham spoend best part of £30 million in January? No. Are they much smaller club ? Yes. Apples & oranges ... Anyhow the fact remains they still finished above us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 A side who spent 28Million odd in January to save our season, a side who had more resources than Hughes. Hughes had to contend with his strikeforce being out and injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Ancelotti and Wilkins for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillz Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I really like Hughes. Think he is a really solid manager with excellent PL and international experince. he has a good record in the transfer market and is a great motivator who oozes passion. Could potenitally build a 'dynasty' at villa which we would remember for some time hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarich1982 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Where's Mysteryman when you need him? I'd keen to know what he knows on the new manager situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micflair Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 How are we looking past Ancelloti here guys? He wants to stay in England, and we have no manager.. he's won it all. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The more I think about, the more I'm sure Hughes wouldn't be a good appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted June 1, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2011 no news at all, been doing the rounds all day REALLY want to know who has been approached, statement on GH from club etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siminjo Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 long time no see for MM whats up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 How are we looking past Ancelloti here guys? He wants to stay in England, and we have no manager.. he's won it all. End of. No. Apparently he's the wrong manager for what we need at the minute. Also he's only ever managed table topping teams so he wouldnt have a scooby doo what to do at a mid-table team like Villa. *i know it sounds stupid, but thats what ive been up against allday mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 comparing Fulhams season to ourselves this season is ridiculous and just doesnt work. Did Fulham spoend best part of £30 million in January? No. Are they much smaller club ? Yes. Apples & oranges ... Anyhow the fact remains they still finished above us 30 million? who on bent was £18 million and makoun was £5 million, who else did we sign in january? milner money = what we spent in january so a total spend of? £0 compairing premier league teams is the only thing you can do , why else is there a league table? are teams given a handicap at the start of the season, man utd, you keep winning stuff and have lots of money you are minus 25 points at the start of the season? no, everyone starts the same THAT is why i compaired fulham and aston villa for last season, hughes managed them and he appears to be a candidate for our managers job. i would be interested to hear how you would make a judgement on how well he did and how well we did without compairing league positions and points totals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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