Con Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Things Bannan hasn't got * Pace * Power Things English football fans love * Pace * Power Things Premier League is known for * Pace * Power I accept that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Things Bannan hasn't got * Pace * Power Things English football fans love * Pace * Power Things Premier League is known for * Pace * Power I accept that. Things Bannan hasn't got: Ability I accept that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Add in to the mix a brain when on the pitch, also composure and you're getting closer I'd say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) First thing first, there is no such thing as the Premier League. There is an SPL and there is the PL but no Premier League. You are technically right (which, according to Futurama, is the BEST kind of right) but everybody outside of the UK calls it the Premier League so as not to be confused. After all, I used to play in the Premier League when I was younger - but not the Premier League. Doesn't really matter how many people call something by the wrong name, it is still wrong. Well it's not wrong for people outside of the UK. Other countries have their own Premier League (it is just Latin for first league after all) so refer to the English one as the Premier League. You're not going to be able to change that. Edited May 28, 2013 by LondonLax 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Things Bannan will have soon..............................A new Club.............Thank God For That! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Bannan has similar attributes to Charlie Adam in the sense that they both love to ping a ball,great left foots and superb technique. Wouldn't surpise me if he went on loan to them this year but i agree Holloway was a nob to us. He would suit Celtic aswell though. Bannan is great at pinging the ball to Louis Suarez! Give it a rest, it was 1 mistake. Get over it :L 2 mistakes in 20 minutes. I dare say he made a lot more in the other matches too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Things Bannan hasn't got * Pace * Power Things English football fans love * Pace * Power Things Premier League is known for * Pace * Power I accept that. Most of the best loved players in the game don't have these attributes. There is more to Barry knocking than just that so let's not try to state otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 2 mistakes in 20 minutes. I dare say he made a lot more in the other matches too. You're guessing, and based on a magical estimation formula which is approximately your bias * number of times you've sworn at Bannan. Here are the actual stats. Minutes played / Turnovers + Dispossession = Minutes until error (higher = better) Westwood 76 Bannan 59 El Ahmadi 52 Delph 42 Sylla 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 28, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 28, 2013 First thing first, there is no such thing as the Premier League. There is an SPL and there is the PL but no Premier League. You are technically right (which, according to Futurama, is the BEST kind of right) but everybody outside of the UK calls it the Premier League so as not to be confused. After all, I used to play in the Premier League when I was younger - but not the Premier League. Doesn't really matter how many people call something by the wrong name, it is still wrong. Well it's not wrong for people outside of the UK. Other countries have their own Premier League (it is just Latin for first league after all) so refer to the English one as the Premier League. You're not going to be able to change that. Yes it is wrong as it isn't its name. I'm not trying to change anything, just stating a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 2 mistakes in 20 minutes. I dare say he made a lot more in the other matches too. You're guessing, and based on a magical estimation formula which is approximately your bias * number of times you've sworn at Bannan. Here are the actual stats. Minutes played / Turnovers + Dispossession = Minutes until error (higher = better) Westwood 76 Bannan 59 El Ahmadi 52 Delph 42 Sylla 31 Once again no context to your stats what-so-ever. Why don't you go to VP once in a while yourself and see first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 In case you are wondering what I mean by context, I mean he is worst out of our two deepest lying midfield players... worse by some distance by the looks of it against Westwood. The other midfielders wouldn't be as good because they play higher up the pitch making more forward passing balls to players in a lot less space. Bannan plays a lot of sideways passes to the defence. You can get stats to state whatever you want, but it is absolutely no substitute to watching with your own two eyes and it is for this reason that Lambert dumped Bannan because despite you finding him having the best stats in any which way you want him Lambert has seen with his own two eyes, in the flesh, that he simply isn't good enough. Dumped for being rubbish... not for being awesome. Wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 28, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 28, 2013 Things Bannan hasn't got * Pace * Power Things English football fans love * Pace * Power Things Premier League is known for * Pace * Power I accept that. More patronising posting. At least you're consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 In case you are wondering what I mean by context, I mean he is worst out of our two deepest lying midfield players... worse by some distance by the looks of it against Westwood. The other midfielders wouldn't be as good because they play higher up the pitch making more forward passing balls to players in a lot less space. Bannan plays a lot of sideways passes to the defence. You can get stats to state whatever you want, but it is absolutely no substitute to watching with your own two eyes and it is for this reason that Lambert dumped Bannan because despite you finding him having the best stats in any which way you want him Lambert has seen with his own two eyes, in the flesh, that he simply isn't good enough. Dumped for being rubbish... not for being awesome. Wake up. You are guessing, and guessing wrong. Bannan actually played more forward balls than Delph, El Ahmadi and Sylla. He is on the same percentage as Westwood. 63.9% Westwood's balls are forward. 63.4% Bannan's balls are forward. http://www.squawka.com/players/barry-bannan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) In case you are wondering what I mean by context, I mean he is worst out of our two deepest lying midfield players... worse by some distance by the looks of it against Westwood. The other midfielders wouldn't be as good because they play higher up the pitch making more forward passing balls to players in a lot less space. Bannan plays a lot of sideways passes to the defence. You can get stats to state whatever you want, but it is absolutely no substitute to watching with your own two eyes and it is for this reason that Lambert dumped Bannan because despite you finding him having the best stats in any which way you want him Lambert has seen with his own two eyes, in the flesh, that he simply isn't good enough. Dumped for being rubbish... not for being awesome. Wake up. You are guessing, and guessing wrong. Bannan actually played more forward balls than Delph, El Ahmadi and Sylla. He is on the same percentage as Westwood. 63.9% Westwood's balls are forward. 63.4% Bannan's balls are forward. http://www.squawka.com/players/barry-bannan He's not on the same percentage then is he? He's on a similar percentage. Edited May 28, 2013 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 In case you are wondering what I mean by context, I mean he is worst out of our two deepest lying midfield players... worse by some distance by the looks of it against Westwood. The other midfielders wouldn't be as good because they play higher up the pitch making more forward passing balls to players in a lot less space. Bannan plays a lot of sideways passes to the defence. You can get stats to state whatever you want, but it is absolutely no substitute to watching with your own two eyes and it is for this reason that Lambert dumped Bannan because despite you finding him having the best stats in any which way you want him Lambert has seen with his own two eyes, in the flesh, that he simply isn't good enough. Dumped for being rubbish... not for being awesome. Wake up. You are guessing, and guessing wrong. Bannan actually played more forward balls than Delph, El Ahmadi and Sylla. He is on the same percentage as Westwood. 63.9% Westwood's balls are forward. 63.4% Bannan's balls are forward. http://www.squawka.com/players/barry-bannan But still to players in more space... context!!! Noun The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed. The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning. You don't get dumped from an awful Villa side for being awesome. Doesn't that tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 We're not that awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Context when supporting facts is VITAL. Unfortunately without context your argument is BOLLOCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 We're not that awful The season as a whole was awful. That is easily lost as all are optimistic because we avoided relegation and finished the season with some excellent performances (coincidently after Bannan got dropped from the side). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge-AVFC Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 We're not that awful The season as a whole was awful. That is easily lost as all are optimistic because we avoided relegation and finished the season with some excellent performances (coincidently after Bannan got dropped from the side). I don't know things were looking up ever since the second half the Newcastle home game. We were still playing well whilst Bannan was in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Whatever you say about him, his pass to Albrighton v Fulham was up there with the best passes I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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