sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Give it a rest con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Give it a rest con Why can't I reply to a post directed to me? As it happens I've got nothing new to add at the moment on this subject which should please you... for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Laughable post :) He's no Ethan Moore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 18, 2013 Rumour has it that Brazil have enquired if Bannan has any Brazilian grandparents in the vain hope of getting him into their squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Neymar isn't a patch on our Bannan.. i'm convinced he would start ahead of Neymar so sounds about right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted January 18, 2013 What are the full requirements for a pass to qualify as "chance creation"? Is it just a pass that is followed by an attempt on goal? I'm guessing "chance creation" doesn't take into account the quality of the chance created either does it? If Bannan crosses the ball and Benteke heads it wide then it's a "chance created" and so means Bannan made a good pass. But if the cross is a foot too high and just behind Benteke then it's actually a bad pass and the striker has done well to have an attempt on goal. According the stats, though it's "chance created" Bannan good, "attempt off target" Benteke bad. If it was that straight forward to work out then managers wouldn't watch the game, they'd sit in front of a laptop looking at a screen like this - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 ok guys, so after 172 pages of jargon, bickering, pointless facts, and random chat, is he actually worth keeping in the starting 11 or is he only good enough as a squad player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 What are the full requirements for a pass to qualify as "chance creation"? Is it just a pass that is followed by an attempt on goal? I'm guessing "chance creation" doesn't take into account the quality of the chance created either does it? If Bannan crosses the ball and Benteke heads it wide then it's a "chance created" and so means Bannan made a good pass. But if the cross is a foot too high and just behind Benteke then it's actually a bad pass and the striker has done well to have an attempt on goal. According the stats, though it's "chance created" Bannan good, "attempt off target" Benteke bad. That's a fair criticism. It doesn't affect our evaluation of Bannan though because we're not interested in the total chances he's created but the relative number of chances he's created compared to other players in other teams, and to other players in the same team. The same methodology used to count the chances Bannan creates applies to all players who 'create chances'. Steven Gerrard has created 56 chances. How many of those were 'bad quality' chances? Doesn't matter. What matters for our evaluation is how many chances Gerrard has made compared to Bannan or Cleverley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Steven Gerrard has created 56 chances. How many of those were 'bad quality' chances? Doesn't matter. What matters for our evaluation is how many chances Gerrard has made compared to Bannan or Cleverley. Of course it matters, and this is where actually watching the player comes into play instead of just going on stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 ok guys, so after 172 pages of jargon, bickering, pointless facts, and random chat, is he actually worth keeping in the starting 11 or is he only good enough as a squad player? He isn't even good enough to be a squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Of course it matters, and this is where actually watching the player comes into play instead of just going on stats. I totally agree. Statistics don't tell you everything. They are a useful aid, especially because memory is often fickle and prone to aligning with one's pre-existing bias. Edited January 18, 2013 by Con 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He isn't even good enough to be a squad player if only lerner was willing to spend money, id like to see him replaced with huddlestone, but isnt going to happen, so stuck with bannan i guess... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 if only lerner was willing to spend money, id like to see him replaced with huddlestone, but isnt going to happen, so stuck with bannan i guess... Huddlestone would be superb for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I still think Bannan is superber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I still think Bannan is superber. You think he's better than huddlestone haha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 a midfield of.... westwood - sissoko - huddlestone we can only dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 a midfield of.... westwood - sissoko - huddlestone we can only dream I'd love to see that midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Still think he's a good player, based on what I've seen. I'd start him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Huddlestone needs to go on a diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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