thetrees Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 It was a nice try, in a Rugby sense because he has scored one there. It is typical right wing thinking - "Oh no, that might affect me!" me, me me. So in your world, when politicians of all colours going into the next general election, ask people to consider the issues that affect them, then ALL of the politicians, and ALL of the electorate are right wing. Because that's what people will be asked to vote on, particularly by Labour, the issues that affect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 It was a nice try, in a Rugby sense because he has scored one there. It is typical right wing thinking - "Oh no, that might affect me!" me, me me. So in your world, when politicians of all colours going into the next general election, ask people to consider the issues that affect them, then ALL of the politicians, and ALL of the electorate are right wing. Because that's what people will be asked to vote on, particularly by Labour, the issues that affect them. yes* because that's pretty much what we've been reduced to, no vision, no grand plan, no long game empty bids and promises of an extra twenty quid if you vote for this suit over that suit *not 100% all of the electorate will vote for immediate personal gain, but all the main parties will use immediate personal gain as their prime vote winning punt because the object of the game is to gain power, not to empower Britain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 It was a nice try, in a Rugby sense because he has scored one there. It is typical right wing thinking - "Oh no, that might affect me!" me, me me. So in your world, when politicians of all colours going into the next general election, ask people to consider the issues that affect them, then ALL of the politicians, and ALL of the electorate are right wing. Because that's what people will be asked to vote on, particularly by Labour, the issues that affect them. The difference being that Labour will be pledging to take on the issues that affect the majority unlike your Tories who are looking out for their own little elite group. One of your problems is that you think far too literally on a single point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 We live in a a very individualistic society. Labour reflect that, which is why they are no longer a left-wing party. They wouldn't get voted in, otherwise. I wouldn't argue for people to ignore issues that affect them, but I do think we've lost a certain sense of social responsiblity. We no longer look out for our fellow citizens. We think paying a bit of tax absolves us of that responsbility. Then we get angry at the government for not looking after people well enough, or for spending too much money on looking after people. We don't think long term, we allow short-term gains and interests to dominate public debate and it has cost us, we've been led astray by governments full of half-wits and opportunists, who have ignored big, important issues for too long. Everything is centred around the individual. What can we do for you? Vote for us, you'll have a bit more money in the pocket. It works, and fair enough, but it is a piss poor way to run a country. Anyway, who cares about social responsiblity and democracy. We want profit, profit, profit! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 We want profit, profit, profit! Yes, well. We'd hoped that mankind would have moved on from this terribly self destructive ethos, perhaps onto something a little more enlightened and sustainable. It appears that we may need to take a couple of steps backward (skull smashing), before we can move forward, in a different, more positive direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Well, I don't condone skull smashing, as the resultant government will be as bad if not worse. Change can be achieved democratically but the biggest problem is voter apathy and the lack of an organised movement on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 It was a nice try, in a Rugby sense because he has scored one there. It is typical right wing thinking - "Oh no, that might affect me!" me, me me. So in your world, when politicians of all colours going into the next general election, ask people to consider the issues that affect them, then ALL of the politicians, and ALL of the electorate are right wing. Because that's what people will be asked to vote on, particularly by Labour, the issues that affect them. The difference being that Labour will be pledging to take on the issues that affect the majority unlike your Tories who are looking out for their own little elite group. One of your problems is that you think far too literally on a single point. Thank you for your youthful insight into 'my problems', which apparently are a problem because they debunk your wayward views. Not my Tories by the way. I have never been a member of, nor affiliated to them in my entire life, and have no plans to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 No problem, old timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) gifs upload Edited March 17, 2014 by mockingbird_franklin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2014 When the government sold our Royal Mail to their mates on the cheap, as part of the sale, it has been revealed, was a database file called the PAF - postal address finder. A recent independent report has stated that selling this 'national asset' was a big mistake. http://www.ukauthority.com/tabid/64/Default.aspx?id=4627 I personally think the whole of the Royal Mail was a national asset and shouldn't have been sold, never mind on the cheap. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 more money wasted by IDS, good job he knows he is right, and anyone with anything even approaching a different opinion, no matter how many facts back their opinion up is wrong. http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Although politicians on the right declared it foolish at the time, and with much condemnation from the government in Westminster, the welsh assembly went ahead and nationalised Cardiff airport. Passenger numbers are up over 10% within the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26600480 Edited March 17, 2014 by Kingfisher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 more money wasted by IDS, good job he knows he is right, and anyone with anything even approaching a different opinion, no matter how many facts back their opinion up is wrong.http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatchDisgusting. So their political incompetence is suppressing economic recovery, making it incredibly difficult for the unemployed to find any kind of work, never mind suitable work. On top of this they can't even get their job classified website right. They're utterly, utterly out of their depth this lot. Step aside and let people who know what their doing take charge. Tories: Cleaning up the mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This does seem to be a bit one sided, doesn't it?. Its not as if the previous lot were competent when it comes to IT cock ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Although politicians on the right declared it foolish at the time, and with much condemnation from the government in Westminster, the welsh assembly went ahead and nationalised Cardiff airport. Passenger numbers are up over 10% within the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-26600480 I think that the 'foolishness' was to do with the amount of subsidy paid to airlines to have them open routes. At the half council owned Birmingham Airport you can apply for subsidy to open a new route that is not already served. The idea then is to get it to profit by the time that the subsidy period is over. So airport passenger figures are not the best example to use when promoting party political foresight. Edited March 17, 2014 by thetrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Be interesting to see if the failing airport can be made to turn a profit under public ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The NHS has rehired 3950 staff made redundant since 2010. Why has this happened under this governments 'restructuring'. It's utter incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Be interesting to see if the failing airport can be made to turn a profit under public ownership. Indeed it will, and if so it will be a great political success, but it is just a little bit too early to judge at this time. On the other hand, if it fails, it was still not necessarily the wrong thing to do. Airports are an important part of local business infrastructure and as a 'capital city', it would be important for Cardiff and Wales as a whole. From an airport business point of view, however, it is a bit too close to Bristol, which benefits from a larger population catchment area which, unfortunately, includes those in Wales that hug the M4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 more money wasted by IDS, good job he knows he is right, and anyone with anything even approaching a different opinion, no matter how many facts back their opinion up is wrong.http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatchDisgusting. So their political incompetence is suppressing economic recovery, making it incredibly difficult for the unemployed to find any kind of work, never mind suitable work. On top of this they can't even get their job classified website right. They're utterly, utterly out of their depth this lot. Step aside and let people who know what their doing take charge. Tories: Cleaning up the mess Who would you suggest are the people who know what they're doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Well for a start we need to elect a government that listens. If you can't listen you're going to **** things up like this. We need to start from the fundamental, with better politics, more open government, and better democracy. The only party offering that for me is the Green Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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